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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 501637" data-attributes="member: 3051">It's tough.&nbsp; The natural weapons will be great for a few levels, but once you reach the point where most enemies have damage reduction, they'll be useless.&nbsp; Heck, even at level 1 a 1d4 weapon isn't that great.&nbsp; Unless, of course, you let Monks use the claws for their &quot;unarmed&quot; attacks, in which case there's the issue of natural vs. BAB progression.You didn't list a Favored Class, either.All of their racial abilities seem tied to their claws, which become useless after a few levels.&nbsp; At low levels this makes for an ECL of at least +1; like Crothian said, Pounce/Rake/Improved Grab is great.&nbsp; After a few levels, though, they're just a furry Half-Orc.&nbsp; Improved Grab is the only one I'd use after that point, and it's probably not worth setting aside your +3 greatsword.Here's my suggested change:&gt; Stats: +2 STR, -2 INT, -2 WIS&gt; Favored Class: Monk (maybe Ranger?)&gt; Skills: +2 Balance, +2 Listen&gt; Low-light vision&gt; Any Ky'Atrah of WIS 13 or higher may expend a Feat to gain the Limited Scent ability.&nbsp; This functions as the DMG Scent ability except that all ranges are 1/3 listed and DCs are increased by 5.&gt; A Ky'Atrah has retractable claws that may be used for unarmed attacks.&nbsp; These do 1 extra damage and change the attack's damage type to Piercing; however, the character is still not considered &quot;armed&quot; when making unarmed attacks.&nbsp; (The Improved Unarmed Strike Feat is still needed to avoid AoOs.)&nbsp; The claws also provide a +2 bonus to grapple checks when extended.&nbsp; Extending or retracting claws is a free action.At this point I'd say it's a strong ECL 0 race.&nbsp; If you really want ECL +1, give them +2 DEX and an attack bonus against Vermin or Animals or something.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 501637, member: 3051"] It's tough. The natural weapons will be great for a few levels, but once you reach the point where most enemies have damage reduction, they'll be useless. Heck, even at level 1 a 1d4 weapon isn't that great. Unless, of course, you let Monks use the claws for their "unarmed" attacks, in which case there's the issue of natural vs. BAB progression. You didn't list a Favored Class, either. All of their racial abilities seem tied to their claws, which become useless after a few levels. At low levels this makes for an ECL of at least +1; like Crothian said, Pounce/Rake/Improved Grab is great. After a few levels, though, they're just a furry Half-Orc. Improved Grab is the only one I'd use after that point, and it's probably not worth setting aside your +3 greatsword. Here's my suggested change: > Stats: +2 STR, -2 INT, -2 WIS > Favored Class: Monk (maybe Ranger?) > Skills: +2 Balance, +2 Listen > Low-light vision > Any Ky'Atrah of WIS 13 or higher may expend a Feat to gain the Limited Scent ability. This functions as the DMG Scent ability except that all ranges are 1/3 listed and DCs are increased by 5. > A Ky'Atrah has retractable claws that may be used for unarmed attacks. These do 1 extra damage and change the attack's damage type to Piercing; however, the character is still not considered "armed" when making unarmed attacks. (The Improved Unarmed Strike Feat is still needed to avoid AoOs.) The claws also provide a +2 bonus to grapple checks when extended. Extending or retracting claws is a free action. At this point I'd say it's a strong ECL 0 race. If you really want ECL +1, give them +2 DEX and an attack bonus against Vermin or Animals or something. [/QUOTE]

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