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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 2420321" data-attributes="member: 1465">At least HD-based SR is one of the thing that makes more sense to me that it gives a constant LA. More or less the Drow has a roughly 50% chance of avoiding spells at any level.But it's far more complicated with the other racial benefits... Special abilities can be a total boon at low levels, especially if they are "at will": a fly speed alone is usually worth at least LA +1, but already at mid levels you can get the same from spells and items, not constantly but usually just when you need it. Unless the party is ususually low on spellcasters, special abilities which resembles spells are not so empowering at high levels.Stat bonuses instead are still useful at every level (they also make less difference at high levels, but not so less IMHO), but they are worth very differently depending which is your character class. I don't think that a race with +4 Str should have the same LA for a wizard or a fighter.Then of course there are racial HD. These are IMHO not worth the +1 ECL/HD in the majority of cases, it still depends a lot on which class you take.If the race is of a type with +1BAB/HD then obviously it's probably a good choice for combat-types. But assuming for the moment no extra LA, those racial "levels" should give some benefit for the loss e.g. in fighter feats.OTOH no racial HD are ever useful to any spellcaster as much as the lost class levels would be.</blockquote>

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