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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rel" data-source="post: 2439079" data-attributes="member: 99">Another consideration popped into my head just now and I don't recall it being mentioned so far in this thread (but I haven't had my second cup of coffee yet either  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh    :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /> ) and that is roleplaying penalties associated with offbeat races.  I know that one of the principles of 3E was "Don't balance mechanical bonuses with roleplaying penalties."  And I think that in general that is a good policy.But in cases where a player wants to play a race that will suffer persecution and hatred for being of that race then I could see relaxing the restrictions a bit provided that EVERYBODY was up front about what to expect.  For example, if a player wanted to play a Bugbear or Gnoll in a setting where those two races were hunted for bounty, I might think about knocking off one of those racial levels, thereby effectively lowering the ECL by 1.  But I would explain to that player and ALL the players in the group that this would mean staying hidden or away from civilized areas.  The PC might have to involuntarily invest ranks in subterfuge skills or concealment magic in order to keep from being attacked on sight.Again, I would make sure that the player in question understood the circumstances they would encounter so they didn't think they were getting something for nothing.  And I'd also make sure the other players knew the deal too because they could easily get tarred with the same brush if it came to light that they were associated with the PC in question.  Only if they all agreed to put up with the added hassle would I proceed on this basis.In my current group, the inclusion of a Bugbear and Hobgoblin does not automatically incur the wrath of the local populace (since I'm using Eberron and these are established and more or less accepted races for that setting).  As a result, I didn't relax any of the LA restrictions.  But the PC's are doing an adequate job of alienating others anyway since they have crappy Charismas. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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