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<blockquote data-quote="seankreynolds" data-source="post: 2459162" data-attributes="member: 3029"><p>True, but that's a far more involved solution than "LAs don't work, use this instead," so it's sorta out of the scope of this discussion.</p><p></p><p>{...although I don't see how <strong>burn</strong> applies in this case given that its an <strong>Ex</strong>traordinary ability.</p><p>...</p><p>I don't think I was suggesting that at all. The fix was for spell-like abilities.}</p><p></p><p>The point is you're going to have the same problems whether those abilities are Ex, Sp, Su, or none of the above.</p><p></p><p>{I can't imagine you would say the burn ability is going to be unbalanced in the hands of PCs anyway.}</p><p></p><p>The burn ability is just an example. Poison is also an Ex ability, useable at will by a PC, and it's one of the many abilities that justify an LA (you can use it all the time, in theory you can extract it to apply to your friends' weapons or sell it, etc.).</p><p></p><p>{But we both know either way that the changes won't make a noticeable difference to the challenge rating of the monsters (NPCs); who will rarely get to exhaust even limited applications of their abilities in a given encounter.}</p><p></p><p>True, 3/day is the same as at will for an NPC or monster.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seankreynolds, post: 2459162, member: 3029"] True, but that's a far more involved solution than "LAs don't work, use this instead," so it's sorta out of the scope of this discussion. {...although I don't see how [B]burn[/B] applies in this case given that its an [B]Ex[/B]traordinary ability. ... I don't think I was suggesting that at all. The fix was for spell-like abilities.} The point is you're going to have the same problems whether those abilities are Ex, Sp, Su, or none of the above. {I can't imagine you would say the burn ability is going to be unbalanced in the hands of PCs anyway.} The burn ability is just an example. Poison is also an Ex ability, useable at will by a PC, and it's one of the many abilities that justify an LA (you can use it all the time, in theory you can extract it to apply to your friends' weapons or sell it, etc.). {But we both know either way that the changes won't make a noticeable difference to the challenge rating of the monsters (NPCs); who will rarely get to exhaust even limited applications of their abilities in a given encounter.} True, 3/day is the same as at will for an NPC or monster. [/QUOTE]
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