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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Simulacrum" data-source="post: 825595" data-attributes="member: 7749">The poll isnt the thing here, discussion is..the poll was just to have a look at if there is an ear for this matter or it isnt...(but out iof the many rants since 3e I guess there is, so maybe this was redundant)I playtested it ad nauseum. It's not 1 character we are talking about its normaly a party of 4 or more. Everyone who has played with different groups with different point buy will notice what a BIG difference it makes if you give out more and more STATS.+2 adds up to +8 in the whole party and the synergy effects is often bigger than the sum of the numbers.how can you calculate something like 20% to make this a valid number?? CR should compare power level of challenges not some completely theoretical number that just sounds rediculous.Ok, even if we said lets keep it the old way, will that fix it?So much for being unbiased, as we all know deep inside that the CR system isnt working this way and needs some LOGIC put behind it. You have to make up some hard statistics and factors that you can connect your system on...the number 20% isnt a hard number and cannot be explained or grasped logicaly as it is completly out of the system...what about 34 or 16% ??</blockquote>