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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wyrmshadows" data-source="post: 4378497" data-attributes="member: 56166">Hussar, I said that dragons are reptilian to which you responded:  Tell me that you can't tell by sight alone whether or not these creatures are reptilian within the context of the fantasy tropes we accept for the genre. Are these reptiles? Should any of these creatures have breasts added to allow players to determine their sex? Lizardfolk[sblock]<img src="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mmiii_gallery/83018.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />[/sblock]  Wyvern[sblock]<img src="http://www.ochogames.com/store/images/products/wyvern_400.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />[/sblock] Hydra[sblock]<img src="http://images.elfwood.com/art/s/a/santi/hydra.jpg.rZd.194740.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />[/sblock] Troglodyte[sblock]<img src="http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/thumb/a/a1/Troglodyte_-_Sam_Wood.jpg/250px-Troglodyte_-_Sam_Wood.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />[/sblock] I can post more, but what would be the point? These creatures are inarguably reptilian/sauroid and one doesn't need to be an amateur biologist to see that. My 9yr old can see that. These are monotremes: Platypus[sblock]<img src="http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=94548&rendTypeId=4" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />[/sblock] Echidna[sblock]<img src="http://www.idilium.com/Australian_Wildlife/images/echidna.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />[/sblock] Monotremes apparently have a great deal of mammalian traits. In fact the egg-laying is pretty secondary in regards to the appearance of these animals that could never be misconstrued to be reptiles. And finally... Dragon[sblock]<img src="http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4461/reddrg0314te.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />[/sblock] Do these need breasts so as to not confuse D&D players? Having posted enough visual evidence for the differences between reptilian/saurian creatures and monotremes (which are far, far more mammalian in appearance than their egg laying nature would seem to allow). We are using sight to determine a creature's type because we aren't amateur biologists we are fantasy RPers. All precedent in fantasy RPing and fiction indicates that one can easily tell the nature of a creature...whether reptile, mammal, vegetable, elemental, etc. We don't need to check their DNA. In fact is is only the issue of dragonboobs that has even brought the monotreme into the vocabulary of D&D.  Dragonborn female:[sblock]<img src="http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1425/dragonbornfemalebs1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />[/sblock] Can you, with any hint of intellectual honesty, tell me that this creature is a monotreme? Dragonborn nurse offspring? If dragonborn are monotremes wouldn't that mean that dragons are monotremes as well?  Its really a shame how many ultimately pointless questions bad art direction can make someone ask. Even sillier than the questions however are the rationalizations that attempt to make sense of bad art direction.   Wyrmshadows</blockquote>

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