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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 4458983" data-attributes="member: 18182">Sorry man, I don't agree with you at all.&nbsp; When the tiefling and genasi were first introduced long ago, there weren't an abundance of &quot;non-generic&quot; abilities for them to play with.&nbsp; Some of that did come later, of course.&nbsp; And the &quot;look&quot; of both races was more variable, but reallly, how hard is that to add to your campaign?&nbsp; Take the 4e stats, but instead of the look in the article (and I'm assuming in the FR Player's Guide), just decide they pretty much look like humans with some special flare tied to their elements.And, I actually think that out of the box these new genasi are actually more versatile than old school&nbsp; In addition to the four classic elements, we get stormsoul genasi as well.&nbsp; And genasi can now manifest two elements!!&nbsp; I love the idea of a firesoul/watersoul genasi and the inner and outer struggles this brings to the character.Also keep in mind this is the first appearance of genasi in 4e.&nbsp; We might get even more crunchy and flavor fun in the FR Player's Guide.&nbsp; And after that, we might see genasi show up in other products with more crunchy stuff, and possibly in Dragon articles as well.&nbsp; It's a bit unfair to compare a 3e race in all it's collective glory with the new version that is mere days old.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 4458983, member: 18182"] Sorry man, I don't agree with you at all. When the tiefling and genasi were first introduced long ago, there weren't an abundance of "non-generic" abilities for them to play with. Some of that did come later, of course. And the "look" of both races was more variable, but reallly, how hard is that to add to your campaign? Take the 4e stats, but instead of the look in the article (and I'm assuming in the FR Player's Guide), just decide they pretty much look like humans with some special flare tied to their elements. And, I actually think that out of the box these new genasi are actually more versatile than old school In addition to the four classic elements, we get stormsoul genasi as well. And genasi can now manifest two elements!! I love the idea of a firesoul/watersoul genasi and the inner and outer struggles this brings to the character. Also keep in mind this is the first appearance of genasi in 4e. We might get even more crunchy and flavor fun in the FR Player's Guide. And after that, we might see genasi show up in other products with more crunchy stuff, and possibly in Dragon articles as well. It's a bit unfair to compare a 3e race in all it's collective glory with the new version that is mere days old. [/QUOTE]

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