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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 6257407" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>Just some thoughts on supply and demand of the future. Technology questions in regards to NEW have got me pondering other types of technology.</p><p></p><p>In Star Trek, one idea at one point was that no one goes hungry or without shelter or needs (at least in the core of the Federation). This differs from earlier versions of the Federation (where I suppose this wasn't so). Because everyone has what they need, they pursue interests of how to improve themselves or better themselves instead of trying to collect material gains. In many ways, the way they present it, seems almost like a socialistic society.</p><p></p><p>Simply put, as the requirements of work go down...less people will be able to get work in those types of fields and hence be able to get the money to prevent themselves from going hungry or obtaining the basics of life. However, ironically, even as that occurs, the amount of resources increases, which means that in theory, if there was a way to redistribute the resources, they wouldn't have to work and indeed, may even be able to do whatever the heck they want.</p><p></p><p>In that idea, as the resources get better and there is enough to really make it so no one is really poor or destitute...would the governments go from one style to a more universal socialistic approach?</p><p></p><p>To take our modern world in looking at this,</p><p></p><p>I'd say as the world has progressed, our ability to actually feed everyone has also increased. I'd say currently, there is NO reason that there is anyone hungry, or shelterless in Western Society (Western Europe and the US/Canada). However, with the Capitalistic system of economics, I'd say there is little chance of completely solving that difficulty. However, even as we see nations with 30-40% unemployment, and even a greater percentage that do not work (are not unemployed as they have no desire to find work...older folks, disabled, etc), we can see that nations DO have a socialistic way of trying to ensure that everyone has food and shelter. </p><p></p><p>I'd say technologically...we just have not gotten advanced enough to eliminate ALL hunger and destitution. In otherwords, even if the technology is there for us to be able to create the resources to house and feed all in a physical sense, the administrative/government/bureaucracy has not advanced technologically enough for us to be able to do this easily yet.</p><p></p><p>So...looking at technology...could we say government and bureaucracy itself is a form of technology (afterall, look at how the world advanced with governements...even over the past thousand years, with monarchy and feudalism...then going to a more democratic and republican type ideal...and finally today where we still have the democratic and republican ideas (for example, Constitutional Monarchy) but very much interspersed with socialistic ideas.</p><p></p><p>In that way...what type of government do you think a future technology would be? With how we are going...I'd say it would deal with a way to distribute resources so no one is hungry or shelterless or in need (I'd even say we're part of the way there already). If they can travel ingalactically, wouldn't it make sense that at that point they'd also have the resources and government advances to provide for everyone if needed?</p><p></p><p>In which case, what do people do most of the time. Will it be like Star Trek where people choose to improve themselves? Will it be like Doctor Who where one can basically have a Tardis that provides food (as far as I can tell, the TARDIS provides food, etc...as needed, changes as it adapts to the situations, has basically everything one needs if they never even wanted to leave the TARDIS)? Or something else.</p><p></p><p>I know that technology and eras of tech have been asked about already...in that regards...how would government and economics fit into these arenas. Is it something like I've imagined (going more and more towards a sociological slant, but then probably far advanced beyond that by the time periods I'm discussing above) or how is that going to be handled. Will it even be discussed? </p><p></p><p>Seeing how a LOT of the way the technology today progresses and has in the past, and how it's directly related to how and what type of governments are there and what they allow and provide, as well as how the economies act and occur...I would think it's relevant.</p><p></p><p>Is there a timeline or anyway these will be integrated or discussed?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 6257407, member: 4348"] Just some thoughts on supply and demand of the future. Technology questions in regards to NEW have got me pondering other types of technology. In Star Trek, one idea at one point was that no one goes hungry or without shelter or needs (at least in the core of the Federation). This differs from earlier versions of the Federation (where I suppose this wasn't so). Because everyone has what they need, they pursue interests of how to improve themselves or better themselves instead of trying to collect material gains. In many ways, the way they present it, seems almost like a socialistic society. Simply put, as the requirements of work go down...less people will be able to get work in those types of fields and hence be able to get the money to prevent themselves from going hungry or obtaining the basics of life. However, ironically, even as that occurs, the amount of resources increases, which means that in theory, if there was a way to redistribute the resources, they wouldn't have to work and indeed, may even be able to do whatever the heck they want. In that idea, as the resources get better and there is enough to really make it so no one is really poor or destitute...would the governments go from one style to a more universal socialistic approach? To take our modern world in looking at this, I'd say as the world has progressed, our ability to actually feed everyone has also increased. I'd say currently, there is NO reason that there is anyone hungry, or shelterless in Western Society (Western Europe and the US/Canada). However, with the Capitalistic system of economics, I'd say there is little chance of completely solving that difficulty. However, even as we see nations with 30-40% unemployment, and even a greater percentage that do not work (are not unemployed as they have no desire to find work...older folks, disabled, etc), we can see that nations DO have a socialistic way of trying to ensure that everyone has food and shelter. I'd say technologically...we just have not gotten advanced enough to eliminate ALL hunger and destitution. In otherwords, even if the technology is there for us to be able to create the resources to house and feed all in a physical sense, the administrative/government/bureaucracy has not advanced technologically enough for us to be able to do this easily yet. So...looking at technology...could we say government and bureaucracy itself is a form of technology (afterall, look at how the world advanced with governements...even over the past thousand years, with monarchy and feudalism...then going to a more democratic and republican type ideal...and finally today where we still have the democratic and republican ideas (for example, Constitutional Monarchy) but very much interspersed with socialistic ideas. In that way...what type of government do you think a future technology would be? With how we are going...I'd say it would deal with a way to distribute resources so no one is hungry or shelterless or in need (I'd even say we're part of the way there already). If they can travel ingalactically, wouldn't it make sense that at that point they'd also have the resources and government advances to provide for everyone if needed? In which case, what do people do most of the time. Will it be like Star Trek where people choose to improve themselves? Will it be like Doctor Who where one can basically have a Tardis that provides food (as far as I can tell, the TARDIS provides food, etc...as needed, changes as it adapts to the situations, has basically everything one needs if they never even wanted to leave the TARDIS)? Or something else. I know that technology and eras of tech have been asked about already...in that regards...how would government and economics fit into these arenas. Is it something like I've imagined (going more and more towards a sociological slant, but then probably far advanced beyond that by the time periods I'm discussing above) or how is that going to be handled. Will it even be discussed? Seeing how a LOT of the way the technology today progresses and has in the past, and how it's directly related to how and what type of governments are there and what they allow and provide, as well as how the economies act and occur...I would think it's relevant. Is there a timeline or anyway these will be integrated or discussed? [/QUOTE]
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