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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 4288763" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>I think looking at 900 GP as being "middle class" might work, because there are definitely a lot of people who are much poorer than that. Heck, first level adventurers start with a max of what? 250 gold?</p><p></p><p>So a farmer who owns his home and say 20 acres of land is the typical middle class commoner farmer.</p><p></p><p>Now what would a commoner have in a town or city?</p><p></p><p>Plus maybe taking into account that in the "old days" of our real world the middle class was a very small percentage of the population, and bout 80% were the lower class/poor.</p><p></p><p>So about 80% of your general population outside of cities are "poor" (middle class was a city phenomenon, not a countryside thing). Figure poor earn maybe 20 gold per year, per family. After all taxes and expenses before food, clothing, etc... 900 GP would be for the few small land owners, and then it would go up from there for the major land holders. Hugely go up according to Magical Medievel Societies: Western Europe. Since he read a lot of resources I'll accept the results of his work. I sure don't want to do all the research necessary to work up an even more realistic system. Besides, how can you when lead can be turned into gold?</p><p></p><p>Anyways, I think using these basic assumptions you may come up with something more satisfactory.</p><p></p><p>BTW, you do know that floating disks can carry only 100 pounds per caster level, are only 3 feet in diameter, and can only travel the mages "normal" speed per round? Plus I would say having more than one in effect would cause a lot of problems. Especially since they would want to maintain the exact same distance and location with respect to the caster unless they are concentrated upon.</p><p></p><p>So I don't see the disks carrying off huge piles of plows, furniture, tools, etc...</p><p></p><p>Plus you see why farmers have lots of dogs. I have 5 myself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 4288763, member: 10177"] I think looking at 900 GP as being "middle class" might work, because there are definitely a lot of people who are much poorer than that. Heck, first level adventurers start with a max of what? 250 gold? So a farmer who owns his home and say 20 acres of land is the typical middle class commoner farmer. Now what would a commoner have in a town or city? Plus maybe taking into account that in the "old days" of our real world the middle class was a very small percentage of the population, and bout 80% were the lower class/poor. So about 80% of your general population outside of cities are "poor" (middle class was a city phenomenon, not a countryside thing). Figure poor earn maybe 20 gold per year, per family. After all taxes and expenses before food, clothing, etc... 900 GP would be for the few small land owners, and then it would go up from there for the major land holders. Hugely go up according to Magical Medievel Societies: Western Europe. Since he read a lot of resources I'll accept the results of his work. I sure don't want to do all the research necessary to work up an even more realistic system. Besides, how can you when lead can be turned into gold? Anyways, I think using these basic assumptions you may come up with something more satisfactory. BTW, you do know that floating disks can carry only 100 pounds per caster level, are only 3 feet in diameter, and can only travel the mages "normal" speed per round? Plus I would say having more than one in effect would cause a lot of problems. Especially since they would want to maintain the exact same distance and location with respect to the caster unless they are concentrated upon. So I don't see the disks carrying off huge piles of plows, furniture, tools, etc... Plus you see why farmers have lots of dogs. I have 5 myself. [/QUOTE]
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