Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Million Dollar TTRPG Crowdfunders
Most Anticipated Tabletop RPGs Of The Year
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
{Eden Studios} Fields of Blood Second printing coming soon
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Bendris Noulg" data-source="post: 1442427" data-attributes="member: 6398"><p>I must admit to have been taken back by this... Of the systems I have, I did (I still!) want to use this as the basis for my own system (expanded by my own views and a little bit of kit bashing from other systems). However, this does pose a quandry.</p><p> </p><p>For instance, what we have is a declaration that includes the names of mechanics as OGC while those mechanics themselves aren't (and some folks think the <em>opposite</em> is a problem...?).</p><p> </p><p>Now, I've a feeling that this is part of the idea of allowing Fields of Blood to be <em>used</em> by other publishers while retaining the key points of the system as a non-reproducible item. However, I think the short fall is that doing so requires actually contacting Eden Studios for permission.</p><p> </p><p>To clarify my meaning, what this product needed was something akin to a Goodies License; state <em>clearly</em> that the statistic/mechanical components are OGC but that all text isn't, but allow a provision that others using the product may add "Uses the mass combat rules from Fields of Blood by Eden Studios" on the cover, back cover, title page, or whatever (working title: A Co-Adaptability License, as this is the condition of the OGL, found in Section 7, that this limited license is bypassing, which Section 7 normally allows by "another, independant agreement").</p><p> </p><p>This would have removed any doubt on the issue; Rather than leaving everyone scratching their heads going, "huh..? I can't use this..?", they are instead seeing a set up that mirrors the Ship Design Codes from Traveler described earlier.</p><p> </p><p>I do see what Eden is trying to do here, and there's some degree of merit to it, although I think the handling of it is off-target.</p><p> </p><p>1. The mechanics in the two chapters are excluded as OGC, where a "Mechanics are OGC, all other text isn't" is likely what you wanted.</p><p> </p><p>2. Not stating intent leaves the reader wondering exactly what you were trying to do (possibly drawing the wrong conclusion or simply washing their hands of it for being too vague or ambiguous, as an earlier post indicates).</p><p> </p><p>3. Assuming that an OGC re-user does determine your intent (and as an OGC re-user, I wasn't sure until I read this thread and, obviously, I'm not the only one), he must contact you for permission when it is your intention to grant that permission to anyone that asks (or, at least, this thread gives the impression that it is).</p><p> </p><p>That said, I <em>suggest</em> that perhaps future reprints address these points of confusion and redundancy, with a web-page addition at Eden explaining the desired intention for the previous and current print-runs, possibly even providing the [Co-Adaptability License] described above.</p><p> </p><p>To this, you might even consider an icon or logo that a product can include to indicate the application/requirement of Fields of Blood (akin to M&M's superlink).</p><p> </p><p>(Hoping this post was as helpful/suggestive as it was critical... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> )</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bendris Noulg, post: 1442427, member: 6398"] I must admit to have been taken back by this... Of the systems I have, I did (I still!) want to use this as the basis for my own system (expanded by my own views and a little bit of kit bashing from other systems). However, this does pose a quandry. For instance, what we have is a declaration that includes the names of mechanics as OGC while those mechanics themselves aren't (and some folks think the [i]opposite[/i] is a problem...?). Now, I've a feeling that this is part of the idea of allowing Fields of Blood to be [i]used[/i] by other publishers while retaining the key points of the system as a non-reproducible item. However, I think the short fall is that doing so requires actually contacting Eden Studios for permission. To clarify my meaning, what this product needed was something akin to a Goodies License; state [i]clearly[/i] that the statistic/mechanical components are OGC but that all text isn't, but allow a provision that others using the product may add "Uses the mass combat rules from Fields of Blood by Eden Studios" on the cover, back cover, title page, or whatever (working title: A Co-Adaptability License, as this is the condition of the OGL, found in Section 7, that this limited license is bypassing, which Section 7 normally allows by "another, independant agreement"). This would have removed any doubt on the issue; Rather than leaving everyone scratching their heads going, "huh..? I can't use this..?", they are instead seeing a set up that mirrors the Ship Design Codes from Traveler described earlier. I do see what Eden is trying to do here, and there's some degree of merit to it, although I think the handling of it is off-target. 1. The mechanics in the two chapters are excluded as OGC, where a "Mechanics are OGC, all other text isn't" is likely what you wanted. 2. Not stating intent leaves the reader wondering exactly what you were trying to do (possibly drawing the wrong conclusion or simply washing their hands of it for being too vague or ambiguous, as an earlier post indicates). 3. Assuming that an OGC re-user does determine your intent (and as an OGC re-user, I wasn't sure until I read this thread and, obviously, I'm not the only one), he must contact you for permission when it is your intention to grant that permission to anyone that asks (or, at least, this thread gives the impression that it is). That said, I [i]suggest[/i] that perhaps future reprints address these points of confusion and redundancy, with a web-page addition at Eden explaining the desired intention for the previous and current print-runs, possibly even providing the [Co-Adaptability License] described above. To this, you might even consider an icon or logo that a product can include to indicate the application/requirement of Fields of Blood (akin to M&M's superlink). (Hoping this post was as helpful/suggestive as it was critical... :uhoh: ) [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
{Eden Studios} Fields of Blood Second printing coming soon
Top