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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5000588" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>I'm not so sure the conclusions are as easy to draw as the raw numbers above might make them appear. The PHB3 and MM3 numbers, notably, are for books not even yet released, so I would not be surprised if they end up on par with the PHB2 and MM2 - less than the PHB1 and MM1, but that is to be expected. If the yearly releases of the core book series are sustainable, that could make a big difference. </p><p> </p><p>Similarly, I'm not going to expect MP2 to match MP1. The real test is whether things like Primal Power 1 hold up alongside Martial Power 1. And the answer is no, Martial Power did sell more than Arcane Power which sold more than Divine Power which sold more than Primal Power.</p><p> </p><p>Of course, that was also the order the books were released it, so the numbers could simply be proportional to how long the books were on the market. </p><p> </p><p>I don't know how sustainable the power books are within the series - but then, I never expected Martial Power 2 to even exist. And of course, it doesn't, yet - the numbers could be a lot closer once it actually releases, and people have a good sense of what is in it and what they might want out of it. That argument doesn't hold for AV1 and AV2, of course - but general opinion is that AV2 just didn't have as much to offer as AV1.</p><p> </p><p>So maybe that is the lesson for WotC - continuing each series isn't an inherently bad thing, as long as they can actually keep up the quality of each book, and ensure it has something new to create interest. AV2 was an interesting failure in this regard, since it did experiment with several new elements - lair items, set items, new consumables, and more story elements. Many of those items, unfortunately, not all that useful for most games, and the book as a whole feeling far thinner on content because of it.</p><p> </p><p>I'm not entirely sure what conclusion of my own I'm trying to draw. I think that only so much can be learned from a poll like this, though the numbers can be interesting to look at. I do certainly think that the D&D model is never going to be infinitely sustainable - it just becomes a question of how long it can be sustained. And I think a drop from MP1 to MP2 is a lot less relevant than the difference between Martial Power 1 and Psionic Power 1, for example - or how close the numbers are between PHB2 and PHB3. </p><p> </p><p>Which, honestly, looks pretty close to me, given the timeframe involved. In the end, though, the numbers won't tell us much for another year or two, and that's when we'll really be able to know more.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 5000588, member: 61155"] I'm not so sure the conclusions are as easy to draw as the raw numbers above might make them appear. The PHB3 and MM3 numbers, notably, are for books not even yet released, so I would not be surprised if they end up on par with the PHB2 and MM2 - less than the PHB1 and MM1, but that is to be expected. If the yearly releases of the core book series are sustainable, that could make a big difference. Similarly, I'm not going to expect MP2 to match MP1. The real test is whether things like Primal Power 1 hold up alongside Martial Power 1. And the answer is no, Martial Power did sell more than Arcane Power which sold more than Divine Power which sold more than Primal Power. Of course, that was also the order the books were released it, so the numbers could simply be proportional to how long the books were on the market. I don't know how sustainable the power books are within the series - but then, I never expected Martial Power 2 to even exist. And of course, it doesn't, yet - the numbers could be a lot closer once it actually releases, and people have a good sense of what is in it and what they might want out of it. That argument doesn't hold for AV1 and AV2, of course - but general opinion is that AV2 just didn't have as much to offer as AV1. So maybe that is the lesson for WotC - continuing each series isn't an inherently bad thing, as long as they can actually keep up the quality of each book, and ensure it has something new to create interest. AV2 was an interesting failure in this regard, since it did experiment with several new elements - lair items, set items, new consumables, and more story elements. Many of those items, unfortunately, not all that useful for most games, and the book as a whole feeling far thinner on content because of it. I'm not entirely sure what conclusion of my own I'm trying to draw. I think that only so much can be learned from a poll like this, though the numbers can be interesting to look at. I do certainly think that the D&D model is never going to be infinitely sustainable - it just becomes a question of how long it can be sustained. And I think a drop from MP1 to MP2 is a lot less relevant than the difference between Martial Power 1 and Psionic Power 1, for example - or how close the numbers are between PHB2 and PHB3. Which, honestly, looks pretty close to me, given the timeframe involved. In the end, though, the numbers won't tell us much for another year or two, and that's when we'll really be able to know more. [/QUOTE]
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