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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8164943" data-attributes="member: 15700">Yep.&nbsp; for every person that calls 4e an MMO, there's a person who screams &quot;edition war!&nbsp; You're a hater!&quot; at any sort of comment about 4e that isn't praise.It's a weird edition for sure.&nbsp;&nbsp; A lot of people hate it, and a lot of people seem to act like it's the only edition you can't criticize or say what you didn't like about it&nbsp; <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />*Edit and before the inevitable &quot;But haters against 4e are the worst!&quot; No.&nbsp; No they aren't.&nbsp; Every edition has people who are vehemently against it.&nbsp; We always have a person or two who calls AD&amp;D a chaotic mess played by neckbeards, or 3e a disaster of imbalance only enjoyed by min maxers&quot;, or that &quot;4e is too gameboardy to be real D&amp;D&quot;, etc.&nbsp; I said it back in 2012 when 5e was announced, &quot;You're not being treated any worse than any other fan, you're only just now experiencing what every other fan has gone through when their favorite edition was replaced.&quot;&nbsp; When/if the next edition comes out, 5e fans will probably make the same complaints.&nbsp; Such is the way of life.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 8164943, member: 15700"] Yep. for every person that calls 4e an MMO, there's a person who screams "edition war! You're a hater!" at any sort of comment about 4e that isn't praise. It's a weird edition for sure. A lot of people hate it, and a lot of people seem to act like it's the only edition you can't criticize or say what you didn't like about it 🤷‍♂️ *Edit and before the inevitable "But haters against 4e are the worst!" No. No they aren't. Every edition has people who are vehemently against it. We always have a person or two who calls AD&D a chaotic mess played by neckbeards, or 3e a disaster of imbalance only enjoyed by min maxers", or that "4e is too gameboardy to be real D&D", etc. I said it back in 2012 when 5e was announced, "You're not being treated any worse than any other fan, you're only just now experiencing what every other fan has gone through when their favorite edition was replaced." When/if the next edition comes out, 5e fans will probably make the same complaints. Such is the way of life. [/QUOTE]

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