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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 5426051" data-attributes="member: 58416">I think one of the issues with 3.5 was that it was trying to serve two masters. I loved 3.5; quite honestly, it's what brought me into D&D full swing. However, now that I have more experience with how other games work, I look back and 3.5 sometimes feels as though it was trying to split its identity between being both D&D and a universal system. It somehow managed to put D&D style level based design into the same package as a physics engine (not sure what else to call it) that seems better suited to something like GURPS or Hero. (As odd as it may sound, I actually had a really easy time learning GURPS when I first picked it up because some of the rules looked similar to what I was accustomed to.) With the many complaints I have about 4E and 4E.E, one thing I can give WoTC credit for is deciding upon an identity for the game. I may not agree with the identity, and there may be times when I'm not thrilled by their customer service skills, but there's been a pretty solid identity given to the product.</blockquote>