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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9184568" data-attributes="member: 7006">Yes, you tried to solve your own problem and it didn't work.&nbsp; Okay.&nbsp; Sorry to hear that.But NOW what?If your only option remaining is to &quot;discuss it&quot;... then yeah, you've successfully been doing that.&nbsp; It has all been a discussion.&nbsp; Some people have agreed with you, others have disagreed with you.&nbsp; If that's all you now want, then great!&nbsp; Your mission has been accomplished!But if that's NOT all you now want, what else is there?&nbsp; What exactly are you hoping to gain by posting here?&nbsp; Do you want everyone to agree with you?&nbsp; Is that what you are looking for?&nbsp; Well, if that's the case you might as well give up now, because quite frankly your own appreciation of 4E and desire to see more of 4E in 5E is automatically going to generate pushback from plenty of people, so you will never be successful in your endeavor for across-the-board acceptance in your discussions.&nbsp; Is it something else?&nbsp; Okay.&nbsp; Well, good luck with whatever it is you are looking for.I mean I know exactly why I post things here, and know I'm going to get pushback on a lot of them.&nbsp; And I'm fine with that.&nbsp; I'm here merely for just &quot;the discussion&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; That's it.&nbsp; The fact that we are conversing right now, for me, is the end in and of itself-- I have no greater agenda or hope out of this conversation between us, I'm just passing the time away.&nbsp; I just hope that's all this is for you as well, because I'd feel bad if I knew you had some larger end result you were trying and hoping to achieve with these back and forths within these threads, because I don't see it happening.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9184568, member: 7006"] Yes, you tried to solve your own problem and it didn't work. Okay. Sorry to hear that. But NOW what? If your only option remaining is to "discuss it"... then yeah, you've successfully been doing that. It has all been a discussion. Some people have agreed with you, others have disagreed with you. If that's all you now want, then great! Your mission has been accomplished! But if that's NOT all you now want, what else is there? What exactly are you hoping to gain by posting here? Do you want everyone to agree with you? Is that what you are looking for? Well, if that's the case you might as well give up now, because quite frankly your own appreciation of 4E and desire to see more of 4E in 5E is automatically going to generate pushback from plenty of people, so you will never be successful in your endeavor for across-the-board acceptance in your discussions. Is it something else? Okay. Well, good luck with whatever it is you are looking for. I mean I know exactly why I post things here, and know I'm going to get pushback on a lot of them. And I'm fine with that. I'm here merely for just "the discussion". That's it. The fact that we are conversing right now, for me, is the end in and of itself-- I have no greater agenda or hope out of this conversation between us, I'm just passing the time away. I just hope that's all this is for you as well, because I'd feel bad if I knew you had some larger end result you were trying and hoping to achieve with these back and forths within these threads, because I don't see it happening. [/QUOTE]

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