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Effective sorcerer/wizard multiclassing
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<blockquote data-quote="totoro" data-source="post: 1028079" data-attributes="member: 11939"><p>Differences between sorcerer and wizard now:</p><p>Alignment. Same</p><p>Hit Die. Same</p><p>Skills. Sorcerer gets bluff. Wizard gets decipher script and all knowledge (and can choose Draconic as a bonus language).</p><p>Skill Points. Same</p><p>BAB. Same</p><p>Weapons. Wizard gets a few simple weapons, Sorcerer gets all.</p><p>Saves. Same</p><p>Special. Wizard gets Scribe Scroll + 1 Meta/Item feat/5 levels.</p><p>Spells (this is an approximation). Sorcerers know as many spells as the Wizard can cast, but can cast 50% more spells than the wizard (notably, cantrips are contra). And the Wizard uses INT, while the Sorcerer uses CHA.</p><p></p><p>So why are these nearly identical classes different classes? Clearly because one casts from spellbooks and the other is a spontaneous caster. Although Bluff was grudgingly added as a Sorcerer skill in 3.5e, it still doesn’t disguise the basic premise of these two very similar classes.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, these very similar classes do not multi-class well even though most of the famous Wizards with which you are familiar (other than from D&D novels) have some inherent magical ability (e.g., Merlin and Gandalf) and also study magic. They are multi-class Sorcerer/Wizards. Rather than mess with all of the multi-classing rules, I have devised a way to make the Sorcerer and Wizard the same class.</p><p></p><p>My previous post was a bit long and perhaps threw off a few of you who would think this is cool. So, this time I will simply provide the new, improved wizard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="totoro, post: 1028079, member: 11939"] Differences between sorcerer and wizard now: Alignment. Same Hit Die. Same Skills. Sorcerer gets bluff. Wizard gets decipher script and all knowledge (and can choose Draconic as a bonus language). Skill Points. Same BAB. Same Weapons. Wizard gets a few simple weapons, Sorcerer gets all. Saves. Same Special. Wizard gets Scribe Scroll + 1 Meta/Item feat/5 levels. Spells (this is an approximation). Sorcerers know as many spells as the Wizard can cast, but can cast 50% more spells than the wizard (notably, cantrips are contra). And the Wizard uses INT, while the Sorcerer uses CHA. So why are these nearly identical classes different classes? Clearly because one casts from spellbooks and the other is a spontaneous caster. Although Bluff was grudgingly added as a Sorcerer skill in 3.5e, it still doesn’t disguise the basic premise of these two very similar classes. Unfortunately, these very similar classes do not multi-class well even though most of the famous Wizards with which you are familiar (other than from D&D novels) have some inherent magical ability (e.g., Merlin and Gandalf) and also study magic. They are multi-class Sorcerer/Wizards. Rather than mess with all of the multi-classing rules, I have devised a way to make the Sorcerer and Wizard the same class. My previous post was a bit long and perhaps threw off a few of you who would think this is cool. So, this time I will simply provide the new, improved wizard. [/QUOTE]
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