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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 9710266" data-attributes="member: 5889">When we talk about including monsters that can kill at 0, that usually comes with two caveats:1) Its not every monster. We are talking about including a few special monsters that use this effect. Not tossing out the death and dying rules wholesale.2) Its a medium to high level inclusion. 5e has plenty of death at levels 1-4...Pcs are plenty squishy, instant death is still absolutely a thing. low level 5e needs nothing to make it more deadly imo, and I would argue against any inclusion of "death at 0" monsters at these CRs.Its only past lvl 5 where you see a big increase in PC survivability...principally because the amount of damage a creature can do with a single attack does not scale with PC hitpoints. As a result, it becomes increasingly difficult to "alpha strike" a PC. As such, death tends to fall on the death saves more and more (and by levels 7+ I would argue nearly exclusively). And at that point, that's where the yo yo healing and such becomes a concern and including the "death at 0" effect becomes something to add to the DM toolbox.</blockquote>