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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8579862" data-attributes="member: 6796468">... this is not an answer. This is just more pretty words.What is an Athletics Saving Throw and how does it compare to a Str/Dex/Con save? Is it more common than any? Less common? How are the various abilities and spells divided among these four stats? Are there an equal number of Perception Saves as there are Dex Saves? If not, how are these abilities balanced against each other?Without going through the -entire- system and reassigning functions to each ability you're just spouting pretty words.You know that. I know that. But how many new players ask that question? Zero Ambiguity for -you-. Not for others.Uh huh. Again: Pretty words. Thematic descriptions, but it doesn't answer the actual question. but I am glad you brought up MADness and Swashbucklers!Does that mean a Swashbuckler has no need of Str/Dex/Con and can just focus on Athletics? Or does Con still give them hit points while Dex gives AC bonus they'll need in their light armor? I was referring to Intelligence and Wisdom, as well as all the other stats. Not -just- Athletics/Perception. Really? 'Cause I've read this thread and don't. I don't understand how you intend to completely revamp a 6 attribute game around 8 attributes and make them all equally valuable. Which is the claim you made. And I also don't know how declaring that everyone will automatically and intuitively understand the differences will somehow magically make it so.&quot;Nuh huh!&quot; Is not an answer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 8579862, member: 6796468"] ... this is not an answer. This is just more pretty words. What is an Athletics Saving Throw and how does it compare to a Str/Dex/Con save? Is it more common than any? Less common? How are the various abilities and spells divided among these four stats? Are there an equal number of Perception Saves as there are Dex Saves? If not, how are these abilities balanced against each other? Without going through the -entire- system and reassigning functions to each ability you're just spouting pretty words. You know that. I know that. But how many new players ask that question? Zero Ambiguity for -you-. Not for others. Uh huh. Again: Pretty words. Thematic descriptions, but it doesn't answer the actual question. but I am glad you brought up MADness and Swashbucklers! Does that mean a Swashbuckler has no need of Str/Dex/Con and can just focus on Athletics? Or does Con still give them hit points while Dex gives AC bonus they'll need in their light armor? I was referring to Intelligence and Wisdom, as well as all the other stats. Not -just- Athletics/Perception. Really? 'Cause I've read this thread and don't. I don't understand how you intend to completely revamp a 6 attribute game around 8 attributes and make them all equally valuable. Which is the claim you made. And I also don't know how declaring that everyone will automatically and intuitively understand the differences will somehow magically make it so. "Nuh huh!" Is not an answer. [/QUOTE]

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