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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 3873344" data-attributes="member: 5202">Sorry Lab_Monkey, I've never been into Rangers and think if they were choosing a class to get the axe for PH1 it's a good start.  Rangers have never really felt like they were worth having as a class to themselves to me, TSR/WotC have never really staked a great claim to the gaming space for them IMO.  Yes I know a certain Drow is a Ranger, but Rangers can be accomplished just fine w/fighters having a broader skill base.  Don't even get me started on the poor spell selection/casting attached to the Ranger (or the Paladin or somehow the Assassin for that matter).  No Ranger I've ever played with really ever used their spells for much, they could have been given much more useful other abilities.Rogue, Cleric, Wizard, Fighter.  4 or more others.  Paladins and Rangers are prestige classes at best.  Sorcerors can go away happily.  I'm one who would like to see Psionics around and actually core, but I don't see it happening really.  Monks don't need to be core, Bards can be provided they're done better than 3E had them.  3.5 Bards were a good deal better. but still more likely to get passed over among my circle of gamer friends.  I tried making a 3E Bard work in one of my friend's games, but I'll admit it wasn't a campaign that played to the Bard's strong suits <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Really, do we need more than 4 classes?  Psionics can be covered ala Arcana Evolved w/flavor feats, and most of the classes in the game are basically a blending in different measures of the 4 base classes.  Having effectively designed talent trees to allow people to go to different class extremes would be more than enough really.  Less space devoted to character classes, more space spent on important things.  Like all the gnomes of the world being put thru an abattoir <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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