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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Huntsman57" data-source="post: 6746154" data-attributes="member: 6803721">I was considering whether to go with an EK or fighter/ mage. It seems to me that most folks don't like the prospect of multi-classing. In my comparison, I don't see a big draw to the EK. I'm unimpressed with the class abilities compared to the Battle Master, and the speed at which I acquire new spells as the EK is terribly slow. Additionally, if I'm going to play this class as a front line fighter, my goal is to optimize the balance of tanking and dealing damage. In terms of tanking, the arcane spells we want are shield, the anti-elemental damage version of shield (I forget the name), mirror image, blink, and improved invisibility. The thing is, if we're in the front line, we don't really want blink or improved invisibility. Blink is terrible for tanking since in 5E you disappear so you're not soaking attacks for the party but instead telling the enemy "go attack the wizard instead!" In terms of improved invisibility, the 5E concentration mechanic is too harsh, so it's better, if possible, that a fellow teammate in the backfield casts this on you. The same goes for haste. So, in the end, I'm only looking to add 3-4 levels of wizard to what will otherwise probably be a Battlemaster. So what am I losing?- the EK'sabilities? Forgettable.- a few hitpoints? Not much, and I could go abjuration wizard and use Arcane Ward to convert my shield spell castings to hitpoints which would more than make up that difference- an attack per round by 20th level? Ok, that's a thing, but the three aforementioned spells will allow me to tank far more damage than I could deal with one extra attack each round. The impressive capacity to mitigate damage easily comes out ahead.Why would you go EK over a Battlemaster/Abjurer? Maybe I could even go 12 levels BM, 4 levels abjurer, and 4 levels in something else! Maybe throw some vengeance paladin in there. I'm thinking 12/4/4 by 20th level. Of course one obvious downside is that my ability scores would probably have to be pretty impressive to go with all three...</blockquote>

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