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<blockquote data-quote="Orcus Porkus" data-source="post: 4560699" data-attributes="member: 76022"><p><img src="http://images.elfwood.com/art/m/a/maperez/weapon_master.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p><strong><span style="color: Red">Eladrin Barbarian wielding a Double Sword, optimized for Charge Attacks</span></strong></p><p>Sneak of Shadows in Level 6 (MC Rogue)</p><p>Daring Acrobat Paragon Path (Rogue MP)</p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong>Objective: Create an encounter power that outperforms any daily in terms of sheer damage</strong></span></p><p></p><p><strong>Ability Score Progression</strong></p><p>Strength is primary score for Barbarian Attacks, so it starts at 18 and is increased at all times</p><p>Dexterity needs to go up to 17 for Surprising Charge, after that Constitution is the new focus because of all the benefits to Barbarian powers</p><p></p><p><strong>Level 1</strong></p><p>Str 18</p><p>Con 13</p><p>Dex 15 </p><p>Int 12</p><p>Wis 8</p><p>Cha 10</p><p></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Level 4 (+1 STR, DEX)</strong></p><p>Str 19</p><p>Con 13</p><p>Dex 16</p><p>Int 12</p><p>Wis 8</p><p>Cha 10</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Level 8 (+1 STR, DEX)</strong></p><p>Str 20</p><p>Con 13</p><p>Dex 17 (allows Surprising Charge feat)</p><p>Int 12</p><p>Wis 8</p><p>Cha 10</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Level 11 (+1 all)</strong></p><p>Str 21</p><p>Con 14</p><p>Dex 18</p><p>Int 13</p><p>Wis 9</p><p>Cha 11</p><p></p><p><strong>Level 14 (+1 STR, CON)</strong></p><p></p><p>Str 22</p><p>Con 15</p><p>Dex 18</p><p>Int 13</p><p>Wis 9</p><p>Cha 11</p><p></p><p><strong>Level 18 (+1 STR, CON)</strong></p><p></p><p>Str 23</p><p>Con 16</p><p>Dex 18</p><p>Int 13</p><p>Wis 9</p><p>Cha 11</p><p></p><p><strong>Level 21 (+1 all)</strong></p><p></p><p>Str 24</p><p>Con 17</p><p>Dex 19</p><p>Int 14</p><p>Wis 10</p><p>Cha 12</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Level 24 (+1 STR, CON)</strong></p><p></p><p>Str 25</p><p>Con 18</p><p>Dex 19</p><p>Int 14</p><p>Wis 10</p><p>Cha 12</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Level 28 (+1 STR, DEX)</strong></p><p></p><p>Str 26</p><p>Con 18</p><p>Dex 20</p><p>Int 14</p><p>Wis 10</p><p>Cha 12</p><p></p><p>Double Sword is the superior choice for this build, mostly because of its light blade/heavy blade hybrid feature. This allows for all the rogue charge attacks and feats that require a light blade. It also requires only Dex 17 for Heavy Blade Mastery so Dex doesn't need to be pumped up to 21 for Light Blade Mastery. Eladrin Longsword Finesse unfortunately is too limited because it only allows the longsword for Sneak Attack with one dice less and rogue powers, but not to use light blade feats. Eladrin Soldier becomes obsolete unless you want to use tratnyrs as a ranged weapon, and perhaps a greatspear once in a while for reach. At level 8 Dexterity becomes 17 and allows the Surprising Charge feat, they key to unleashing this build's power.</p><p></p><p><strong>Skills</strong></p><p></p><p>- Acrobatics, required for Daring Acrobat Paragon Path and Roundabout Charge feat</p><p>- Athletics, always useful</p><p>- Perception</p><p>- Thievery (Sneak of Shadows bonus feat at Level 6, at least someone in the group can disable traps and open locks)</p><p>- Stealth (Eladrin Training, might allow CA once in a while)</p><p></p><p><strong>Feats Progression</strong></p><p>Lvl 1 <strong>Double Sword Proficiency</strong> +3 on attack rolls, +1 AC, qualify for light blade attacks, and light blade/heavy blade feats</p><p>Lvl 2 <strong>Powerful Charge</strong> +2 damage on charge</p><p>Lvl 4 <strong>Double Sword Weapon Focus</strong> +1 on damage</p><p>Lvl 6 <strong>Sneak of Shadows</strong> (Rogue Multiclass feat), Gain Sneak Attack once per encounter</p><p>Lvl 8 <strong>Surprising Charge</strong> (Rogue MP, Dex 17), +1[W] damage when charging with light blade and having CA</p><p>Lvl 10 <strong>Backstabber</strong> Sneak Attack damage is now d8</p><p>Lvl 11 <strong>Roundabout Charge</strong> (MP Paragon, Rogue, trained in Acrobatics) End your charge in any square adjacent to target</p><p>Lvl 12 <strong>Seize the moment</strong> (PHB Paragon, Dex 17) Combat advantage in first Round</p><p>Lvl 14 <strong>Improved initiative</strong> (PHB) +4 Initiative</p><p>Lvl 16 <strong>Nimble Blade</strong> (PHB, Dex 15) +1 attack bonus when having CA</p><p>Lvl 18 <strong>Slaying Action</strong> (MP, Rogue, Sneak Attack) Sneak Attack twice after Action Point</p><p>Lvl 20 <strong>Heavy Blade Opportunity</strong> (PHB Paragon, Str 15, Dex 15) Use at-will for Opportunity Attacks (Pressing Strike!!!)</p><p>Lvl 21 <strong>Heavy Blade Mastery</strong> (PHB Epic, Str 21, Dex 17) Crit on 19 and 20</p><p>Lvl 22 <strong>Light Blade Precision</strong> (PHB Paragon, Dex 13) +2 damage vs large foes</p><p>Lvl 24 <strong>Blade Opportunist</strong> (PHB, Str 13, Dex 13) +2 bonus to opportunity attack rolls</p><p>Lvl 26 <strong>Fast Runner</strong> (PHB, Con 13)</p><p>Lvl 28 <strong>Armor Specialization (Hide)</strong> (PHB, Con 15) +1 AC, check penalty removed</p><p>Lvl 30 <strong>Danger Sense</strong> (PHB Paragon) Reroll Initiative</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong>Daring Acrobat Paragon Path (Rogue)</strong></span></p><p><u><strong></strong></u></p><p><u><strong>Paragon Path Features:</strong></u></p><p></p><p><strong>Acrobatic Action</strong> (Level 11): Extra Move Action after Action Point</p><p><strong>Tumbling Positions</strong> (Level 11): Not granting CA when balancing, climbing, or prone</p><p><strong>Agile Charge</strong> (Level 16): +1 bonus on AC and Reflex when beginning a charge</p><p></p><p><u><strong>Paragon Path Powers:</strong></u></p><p></p><p><strong>Wild Tumble Cut</strong> Level 11 Encounter power (4[W] for charge attack)</p><p><strong>Flawless Stunt</strong> Level 12 Utility, +5 bonus to Acrobatics and Athletics, works great with Great Leap Barbarian power</p><p><strong>Dramatic Finish</strong> Level 20 Daily, can deal 6[W]+ Dex on charge</p><p><img src="http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/shopimages/products/normal/7406_1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong>Level 18 Snapshot</strong></span></p><p>23 Strength +6</p><p>16 Constitution +3</p><p>18 Dexterity +4</p><p>13 Intelligence +1</p><p>9 Wisdom -1</p><p>11 Charisma +0</p><p></p><p>AC: 31 (incl. Defensive Weapon bonus)</p><p>Fort: 31 (incl. Steadfast Amulet)</p><p>Ref: 27 (incl. Steadfast Amulet)</p><p>Will: 24 (incl. Steadfast Amulet)</p><p></p><p>Hit Points: 133</p><p></p><p>+17 Acrobatics</p><p>+19 Athletics </p><p>+17 Stealth</p><p>+17 Thievery</p><p>+13 Perception</p><p></p><p><u><strong>Magic Items of Choice</strong></u></p><p><strong>Vanguard Double Sword</strong> +4 (Level 18, +4d8 damage on crit, +1d8 after charge)</p><p><strong>Bestial Hide</strong> +4 (Level 18, extra melee basic attack after charge [daily])</p><p><strong>Horned Helm</strong> (Level 16, +2d6 on charge attacks)</p><p><strong>Iron Armbands of Power </strong>(Level 16, +4 damage)</p><p><strong>Boots of Adept Charging</strong> (can shift after charge)</p><p><strong>Steadfast Amulet</strong> +4 Fortitude, Reflex, and Will</p><p></p><p><strong>Howling Strike Charge Attack</strong> with Vanguard Double Sword, starting the encounter with Seize the Moment combat advantage and charging to any square adjacent to a suitable target:</p><p><strong>Attack Roll</strong></p><p>Strength: +6</p><p>Proficiency Double Sword: +3</p><p>Enhancement: +4</p><p>Half Level: +9</p><p>Combat Advantage: +2</p><p>Charging: +1</p><p>Nimble Blade: +1</p><p><strong>Total: +26</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Damage</strong></p><p>1d8 (Double Sword)</p><p>1d8 (Surprising charge extra W)</p><p>2d6 (Howling Strike Paragon)</p><p>1d8 (Vanguard bonus on charge attacks)</p><p>2d6 (Horned Helm bonus on charge attacks)</p><p>3d8 (Sneak Attack bonus)</p><p>+6 Strength modifier</p><p>+1 Weapon Focus</p><p>+4 Iron Armbands of Power</p><p>+4 Enhancement</p><p>+2 Powerful Charge</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong>Total: 6d8 +4d6 +17</strong></span></p><p>Followed by Bestial Hide Free Attack, and then Action Point and a Rage Daily to get things started if it’s not dead already (which means Swift Charge, yeah)</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong>Crit Damage:</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong>57 +4d6 +4d8</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong></strong></span></p><p></p><p>Instead of Howling Strike you can use <strong>Wild Tumble Cut</strong>, Level 11 Encounter Power from Daring Acrobat Paragon Path, which deals 4[W] plus Dex. The attack is DEX vs AC, so the attack roll is only +24. The damage output would be:</p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong>9d8 +4d6 +16</strong></span></p><p>or</p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong>80 +4d6 +4d8 on a crit</strong></span></p><p></p><p>At <strong>Level 8 the Howling Strike</strong> damage output without Sneak Attack but Combat Advantage would be</p><p></p><p>1d8 (Double Sword)</p><p>1d8 (Surprising charge extra W)</p><p>1d6 (Howling Strike)</p><p>1d8 (Vanguard bonus on charge attacks)</p><p>1d6 (Horned Helm bonus on charge attacks)</p><p>+5 Strength modifier</p><p>+1 Weapon Focus</p><p>+2 Iron Armbands of Power</p><p>+2 Enhancement</p><p>+2 Powerful Charge</p><p><strong>= 3d8+2d6+12</strong></p><p>I'd say that's pretty good for an 8th Level At-Will that's not difficult to pull off. You just need to charge into Combat Advantage whenever possible. At Level 11 it becomes even easier with Roundabout Charge. As long as there are 2 squares to charge into a flanking position this attack works. The beauty: No Opportunity Attacks during rage!</p><p></p><p><strong>Other good feats to consider:</strong></p><p></p><p>Whirlwind Sneak Attack, MP Epic (Sneak Attack damage against all targets of rogue power)</p><p>Lasting Advantage, MP Epic (CA remains after crit)</p><p>Feywild Warrior, MP Epic (teleport target)</p><p>Fey Gambit, MP Paragon (gain CA when feystepping next to target. Sounds good, but problem is fey step is used more for escaping, and fey charge is fighter only unfortunately)</p><p>Martial Alacrity, MP Heroic: +2 Initiative and shift as minor action during first turn (alternative to Improved Initiative)</p><p></p><p><strong>Slight problems with this build:</strong> Low on Defenses, No feat to spare for better armor, No ranged weapon mastery</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Orcus Porkus, post: 4560699, member: 76022"] [IMG]http://images.elfwood.com/art/m/a/maperez/weapon_master.jpg[/IMG] [B][COLOR="Red"]Eladrin Barbarian wielding a Double Sword, optimized for Charge Attacks[/COLOR][/B] Sneak of Shadows in Level 6 (MC Rogue) Daring Acrobat Paragon Path (Rogue MP) [COLOR="Red"][B]Objective: Create an encounter power that outperforms any daily in terms of sheer damage[/B][/COLOR] [B]Ability Score Progression[/B] Strength is primary score for Barbarian Attacks, so it starts at 18 and is increased at all times Dexterity needs to go up to 17 for Surprising Charge, after that Constitution is the new focus because of all the benefits to Barbarian powers [B]Level 1[/B] Str 18 Con 13 Dex 15 Int 12 Wis 8 Cha 10 [B] Level 4 (+1 STR, DEX)[/B] Str 19 Con 13 Dex 16 Int 12 Wis 8 Cha 10 [B]Level 8 (+1 STR, DEX)[/B] Str 20 Con 13 Dex 17 (allows Surprising Charge feat) Int 12 Wis 8 Cha 10 [B]Level 11 (+1 all)[/B] Str 21 Con 14 Dex 18 Int 13 Wis 9 Cha 11 [B]Level 14 (+1 STR, CON)[/B] Str 22 Con 15 Dex 18 Int 13 Wis 9 Cha 11 [B]Level 18 (+1 STR, CON)[/B] Str 23 Con 16 Dex 18 Int 13 Wis 9 Cha 11 [B]Level 21 (+1 all)[/B] Str 24 Con 17 Dex 19 Int 14 Wis 10 Cha 12 [B]Level 24 (+1 STR, CON)[/B] Str 25 Con 18 Dex 19 Int 14 Wis 10 Cha 12 [B]Level 28 (+1 STR, DEX)[/B] Str 26 Con 18 Dex 20 Int 14 Wis 10 Cha 12 Double Sword is the superior choice for this build, mostly because of its light blade/heavy blade hybrid feature. This allows for all the rogue charge attacks and feats that require a light blade. It also requires only Dex 17 for Heavy Blade Mastery so Dex doesn't need to be pumped up to 21 for Light Blade Mastery. Eladrin Longsword Finesse unfortunately is too limited because it only allows the longsword for Sneak Attack with one dice less and rogue powers, but not to use light blade feats. Eladrin Soldier becomes obsolete unless you want to use tratnyrs as a ranged weapon, and perhaps a greatspear once in a while for reach. At level 8 Dexterity becomes 17 and allows the Surprising Charge feat, they key to unleashing this build's power. [B]Skills[/B] - Acrobatics, required for Daring Acrobat Paragon Path and Roundabout Charge feat - Athletics, always useful - Perception - Thievery (Sneak of Shadows bonus feat at Level 6, at least someone in the group can disable traps and open locks) - Stealth (Eladrin Training, might allow CA once in a while) [B]Feats Progression[/B] Lvl 1 [B]Double Sword Proficiency[/B] +3 on attack rolls, +1 AC, qualify for light blade attacks, and light blade/heavy blade feats Lvl 2 [B]Powerful Charge[/B] +2 damage on charge Lvl 4 [B]Double Sword Weapon Focus[/B] +1 on damage Lvl 6 [B]Sneak of Shadows[/B] (Rogue Multiclass feat), Gain Sneak Attack once per encounter Lvl 8 [B]Surprising Charge[/B] (Rogue MP, Dex 17), +1[W] damage when charging with light blade and having CA Lvl 10 [B]Backstabber[/B] Sneak Attack damage is now d8 Lvl 11 [B]Roundabout Charge[/B] (MP Paragon, Rogue, trained in Acrobatics) End your charge in any square adjacent to target Lvl 12 [B]Seize the moment[/B] (PHB Paragon, Dex 17) Combat advantage in first Round Lvl 14 [B]Improved initiative[/B] (PHB) +4 Initiative Lvl 16 [B]Nimble Blade[/B] (PHB, Dex 15) +1 attack bonus when having CA Lvl 18 [B]Slaying Action[/B] (MP, Rogue, Sneak Attack) Sneak Attack twice after Action Point Lvl 20 [B]Heavy Blade Opportunity[/B] (PHB Paragon, Str 15, Dex 15) Use at-will for Opportunity Attacks (Pressing Strike!!!) Lvl 21 [B]Heavy Blade Mastery[/B] (PHB Epic, Str 21, Dex 17) Crit on 19 and 20 Lvl 22 [B]Light Blade Precision[/B] (PHB Paragon, Dex 13) +2 damage vs large foes Lvl 24 [B]Blade Opportunist[/B] (PHB, Str 13, Dex 13) +2 bonus to opportunity attack rolls Lvl 26 [B]Fast Runner[/B] (PHB, Con 13) Lvl 28 [B]Armor Specialization (Hide)[/B] (PHB, Con 15) +1 AC, check penalty removed Lvl 30 [B]Danger Sense[/B] (PHB Paragon) Reroll Initiative [COLOR="Red"][B]Daring Acrobat Paragon Path (Rogue)[/B][/COLOR] [U][B] Paragon Path Features:[/B][/U] [B]Acrobatic Action[/B] (Level 11): Extra Move Action after Action Point [B]Tumbling Positions[/B] (Level 11): Not granting CA when balancing, climbing, or prone [B]Agile Charge[/B] (Level 16): +1 bonus on AC and Reflex when beginning a charge [U][B]Paragon Path Powers:[/B][/U] [B]Wild Tumble Cut[/B] Level 11 Encounter power (4[W] for charge attack) [B]Flawless Stunt[/B] Level 12 Utility, +5 bonus to Acrobatics and Athletics, works great with Great Leap Barbarian power [B]Dramatic Finish[/B] Level 20 Daily, can deal 6[W]+ Dex on charge [IMG]http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/shopimages/products/normal/7406_1.jpg[/IMG] [COLOR="Red"][B]Level 18 Snapshot[/B][/COLOR] 23 Strength +6 16 Constitution +3 18 Dexterity +4 13 Intelligence +1 9 Wisdom -1 11 Charisma +0 AC: 31 (incl. Defensive Weapon bonus) Fort: 31 (incl. Steadfast Amulet) Ref: 27 (incl. Steadfast Amulet) Will: 24 (incl. Steadfast Amulet) Hit Points: 133 +17 Acrobatics +19 Athletics +17 Stealth +17 Thievery +13 Perception [U][B]Magic Items of Choice[/B][/U] [B]Vanguard Double Sword[/B] +4 (Level 18, +4d8 damage on crit, +1d8 after charge) [B]Bestial Hide[/B] +4 (Level 18, extra melee basic attack after charge [daily]) [B]Horned Helm[/B] (Level 16, +2d6 on charge attacks) [B]Iron Armbands of Power [/B](Level 16, +4 damage) [B]Boots of Adept Charging[/B] (can shift after charge) [B]Steadfast Amulet[/B] +4 Fortitude, Reflex, and Will [B]Howling Strike Charge Attack[/B] with Vanguard Double Sword, starting the encounter with Seize the Moment combat advantage and charging to any square adjacent to a suitable target: [B]Attack Roll[/B] Strength: +6 Proficiency Double Sword: +3 Enhancement: +4 Half Level: +9 Combat Advantage: +2 Charging: +1 Nimble Blade: +1 [B]Total: +26[/B] [B]Damage[/B] 1d8 (Double Sword) 1d8 (Surprising charge extra W) 2d6 (Howling Strike Paragon) 1d8 (Vanguard bonus on charge attacks) 2d6 (Horned Helm bonus on charge attacks) 3d8 (Sneak Attack bonus) +6 Strength modifier +1 Weapon Focus +4 Iron Armbands of Power +4 Enhancement +2 Powerful Charge [COLOR="Red"][B]Total: 6d8 +4d6 +17[/B][/COLOR] Followed by Bestial Hide Free Attack, and then Action Point and a Rage Daily to get things started if it’s not dead already (which means Swift Charge, yeah) [COLOR="Red"][B]Crit Damage: 57 +4d6 +4d8 [/B][/COLOR] Instead of Howling Strike you can use [B]Wild Tumble Cut[/B], Level 11 Encounter Power from Daring Acrobat Paragon Path, which deals 4[W] plus Dex. The attack is DEX vs AC, so the attack roll is only +24. The damage output would be: [COLOR="Red"][B]9d8 +4d6 +16[/B][/COLOR] or [COLOR="Red"][B]80 +4d6 +4d8 on a crit[/B][/COLOR] At [B]Level 8 the Howling Strike[/B] damage output without Sneak Attack but Combat Advantage would be 1d8 (Double Sword) 1d8 (Surprising charge extra W) 1d6 (Howling Strike) 1d8 (Vanguard bonus on charge attacks) 1d6 (Horned Helm bonus on charge attacks) +5 Strength modifier +1 Weapon Focus +2 Iron Armbands of Power +2 Enhancement +2 Powerful Charge [B]= 3d8+2d6+12[/B] I'd say that's pretty good for an 8th Level At-Will that's not difficult to pull off. You just need to charge into Combat Advantage whenever possible. At Level 11 it becomes even easier with Roundabout Charge. As long as there are 2 squares to charge into a flanking position this attack works. The beauty: No Opportunity Attacks during rage! [B]Other good feats to consider:[/B] Whirlwind Sneak Attack, MP Epic (Sneak Attack damage against all targets of rogue power) Lasting Advantage, MP Epic (CA remains after crit) Feywild Warrior, MP Epic (teleport target) Fey Gambit, MP Paragon (gain CA when feystepping next to target. Sounds good, but problem is fey step is used more for escaping, and fey charge is fighter only unfortunately) Martial Alacrity, MP Heroic: +2 Initiative and shift as minor action during first turn (alternative to Improved Initiative) [B]Slight problems with this build:[/B] Low on Defenses, No feat to spare for better armor, No ranged weapon mastery [/QUOTE]
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