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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ferrous" data-source="post: 4247122" data-attributes="member: 61796">I agree that the races the OP identified are rather naff. They will not be making an appearance in my campaign unless heavily modified. Still one man's meat is another man's poison and all that. I think that the problem for me and perhaps the original poster was that the strength of D&D was it was a kind of linqua franca of fantasy RPG and it gave stock archetypes that could be then modified for your own game world. However by moving away from the stock (or cliched if you will) you have a style that is less easily modifiable. D&D 4th edition feels in flavour much like Earthdawn which was great in terms of colour. But Earthdawn did not get as much play (at least in our group) because it was less easy to make the setting your own.I do not like the higher fantasy of feel of the new D&D myself, though I do like the mechanical changes for a more balanced and playable game. For me when everything is magical it cheapens the feel and sense of wonder. Magical is simply the new mundane. When my Paladin draws back the cowl of the hooded stranger to see the slitted eyes and forked tongue of someone who has been touched by diabolical forces, I want to be able to cry aloud in shock and disgust and reach for my sword without another PC going "Relax it's just Dave who works in the bar. Racist!"As this is an enclave of people who are largely excited about the new edition any concerns and criticisms tend to be attacked. After reading through a few such posts, I want to say "Yes, I like 4th edition but that does not mean I have no sense of critical discernment" .</blockquote>

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