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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Asmor" data-source="post: 3576643" data-attributes="member: 1154">Do you think that Elans are still a +0 LA race if you drop the charisma penalty and turn them into Humanoid (Human)* type? For the record, they're aberrations by raw.I think honestly that being an aberration is pretty damn good for a +0 LA, since it means the charm/dominate/hold person spells won't work on you. The Elan seem fairly good in general, though, so I don't feel too bad about clipping that...I am considering getting rid of the -2 cha, though. Charisma penalties are one of my pet peeves, primarily because I take a very different view of charisma from the raw (that it's strictly a measure of force of personality, and nothing else) and it seems like they're just way too overused. In any case, it's not like the -2 cha is a huge drawback in the first place... Sure, it makes it hard for them to be wilders, but their favored class is psion anyway.So do you think these changes are okay?*IMC, I've consolidated racial subtypes a bit... For example, Aasimar, Tieflings and Changelings are all considered humanoid subraces and have the Humanoid (Human) type.</blockquote>