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Elans: Drop the -2 cha, change to Humanoid. Balanced?
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<blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 3577514" data-attributes="member: 6562"><p>I'd buy that it's balanced, if a bit on the weak side. Elan get effectively three (weak) 1st level Augmentable powers for their class ability, 2 bonus power points, and a host of immunities (thanks to Aberration type).</p><p></p><p>Charisma is the most common dump stat -- for most classes, it's (mechanically) meaningless. For some players and some play-styles, it's meaningless outside of mechanics -- and thus it's a weak stat (for a penalty). Removing that penalty is thus meaningless for <u>many</u> PCs. If your game has a lot of RP yet imposes mechanical limits (e.g. diplomacy rolls) on RP, then Charisma is important -- else, not so much.</p><p></p><p>In order for their main class ability to be worth much, they have to mostly negate their secondary class ability (by playing a Psionic class, which makes their +2 pp not as cool as it would be for a non-Psionic class).</p><p></p><p>Suggestions:</p><p></p><p>1/ Steal a feat from Complete Psionic (the one that doubles the benefit of their racial Resistance & Resilience). (That's all it does.)</p><p></p><p>2/ Create a feat that gives them bonus PP equal to their character level (instead of just +2); requires character level 3 of course. This puts them more on the level of Kalashtar, but costs them a feat. Coupled with the above feat, it's now plausible to play an Elan as a class other than Psion and still make good use of his racial abilities at high level. In fact, it would be a very interesting fighter type.</p><p></p><p>Cheers, -- N</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nifft, post: 3577514, member: 6562"] I'd buy that it's balanced, if a bit on the weak side. Elan get effectively three (weak) 1st level Augmentable powers for their class ability, 2 bonus power points, and a host of immunities (thanks to Aberration type). Charisma is the most common dump stat -- for most classes, it's (mechanically) meaningless. For some players and some play-styles, it's meaningless outside of mechanics -- and thus it's a weak stat (for a penalty). Removing that penalty is thus meaningless for [u]many[/u] PCs. If your game has a lot of RP yet imposes mechanical limits (e.g. diplomacy rolls) on RP, then Charisma is important -- else, not so much. In order for their main class ability to be worth much, they have to mostly negate their secondary class ability (by playing a Psionic class, which makes their +2 pp not as cool as it would be for a non-Psionic class). Suggestions: 1/ Steal a feat from Complete Psionic (the one that doubles the benefit of their racial Resistance & Resilience). (That's all it does.) 2/ Create a feat that gives them bonus PP equal to their character level (instead of just +2); requires character level 3 of course. This puts them more on the level of Kalashtar, but costs them a feat. Coupled with the above feat, it's now plausible to play an Elan as a class other than Psion and still make good use of his racial abilities at high level. In fact, it would be a very interesting fighter type. Cheers, -- N [/QUOTE]
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