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<blockquote data-quote="trav_laney" data-source="post: 3331599" data-attributes="member: 46508">While some are under the impression that most of the new core classes should instead be prestige classes (and there is certainly nothing wrong with that point of view,) I think that it should be the other way around...I think that a lot of prestige classes out there should be core classes instead.&nbsp; Maybe it is just a throwback to the days of &quot;kits.&quot;I would like to create an arcane fighter style of a character, using the Eldritch Knight prestige class as a base.&nbsp; (I know that there are many new &quot;arcane fighter&quot; classes out there already, but I don't care for them too much.)&nbsp; So before I spent a lot of time doing a formal write-up, I wanted to get some feedback from the gamers in this forum.These are my notes.&nbsp; And as always, if someone has already done this, please point me in the proper direction.[CODE]Hit Dice:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; d6Base Attack:&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; fullSaves:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Good fortClass Skills:&nbsp; &nbsp; Concentration, Craft, Decipher Script, Jump, Knowledge&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (arcana), Knowledge (nobility and royalty), Ride, Sense Motive,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Spellcraft, Swim.Skill Points:&nbsp; &nbsp; 2 + Int modifierWeapon prof&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; all simple and martialArmor prof:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; lightShield prof:&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; noneClass Features:----------------------------------- Bonus spells and save DCs based on Charisma (Intelligence?)- Spells spontaneously cast, as sorcerer (or prepared, as wizard?)- Spells per day/spells known as bard.- Use sor/wiz spell list.- Can cast spells in light armor with no %ASF.- Bonus feat at 1st level, and every 5th level.&nbsp; These bonus feats must be Item Creation, Metamagic, or Fighter feats.[/CODE]I think it is balanced for the most part, but the thing that a lot of players are going to trip over is that the class cannot learn 7th, 8th, or 9th level sor/wiz spells (thanks to the &quot;as a bard&quot; spell progression.)&nbsp; But I thought that it was a lot better option than cutting the caster level.&nbsp; What do you think?Another thing is, should I make it a spontaneous caster ala the sorcerer, or a prepared caster ala wizard?&nbsp; I know it is a matter of personal preference, but I don't want to make it&nbsp; &quot;player's choice.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="trav_laney, post: 3331599, member: 46508"] While some are under the impression that most of the new core classes should instead be prestige classes (and there is certainly nothing wrong with that point of view,) I think that it should be the other way around...I think that a lot of prestige classes out there should be core classes instead. Maybe it is just a throwback to the days of "kits." I would like to create an arcane fighter style of a character, using the Eldritch Knight prestige class as a base. (I know that there are many new "arcane fighter" classes out there already, but I don't care for them too much.) So before I spent a lot of time doing a formal write-up, I wanted to get some feedback from the gamers in this forum. These are my notes. And as always, if someone has already done this, please point me in the proper direction. [CODE]Hit Dice: d6 Base Attack: full Saves: Good fort Class Skills: Concentration, Craft, Decipher Script, Jump, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (nobility and royalty), Ride, Sense Motive, Spellcraft, Swim. Skill Points: 2 + Int modifier Weapon prof all simple and martial Armor prof: light Shield prof: none Class Features: ---------------------------------- - Bonus spells and save DCs based on Charisma (Intelligence?) - Spells spontaneously cast, as sorcerer (or prepared, as wizard?) - Spells per day/spells known as bard. - Use sor/wiz spell list. - Can cast spells in light armor with no %ASF. - Bonus feat at 1st level, and every 5th level. These bonus feats must be Item Creation, Metamagic, or Fighter feats.[/CODE] I think it is balanced for the most part, but the thing that a lot of players are going to trip over is that the class cannot learn 7th, 8th, or 9th level sor/wiz spells (thanks to the "as a bard" spell progression.) But I thought that it was a lot better option than cutting the caster level. What do you think? Another thing is, should I make it a spontaneous caster ala the sorcerer, or a prepared caster ala wizard? I know it is a matter of personal preference, but I don't want to make it "player's choice." [/QUOTE]

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