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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 2779744" data-attributes="member: 3146">It's a good power, but the havoc mage is even worse for a character who doesn't want to buff and fight than eldritch knight is. You lose yet another caster level (and, given that it's a 5-level prestige class, you're going to either have to return to wizard which nerfs any combat ability you might get out of havoc mage or go with spellsword, eldritch knight, phantom dragoon, etc which all cost even more spellcasting ability). You gain an ability that only works when you attack.With that ability, you still have three basic choices:A. buff and attack with weaponsB. don't buff and attack with weapons anywayC. don't bother attacking with weapons.Option A is what the OP apparently wants to avoid (though it may be that he just wants to avoid the "spend three rounds buffing and find that the battle is over before he can do anything" trap or doesn't want to use particular buffs (like polymorph, blink, or wraithstrike) which are other questions entirely).Option B is a recipe for disaster. Wizards--even multiclass ones--simply aren't good enough at combat to do well without using the abilities they gave up about half their HD based hit points and at least three points of BAB to get.Option C works just fine, but then what you get out of havoc mage is just as counterproductive as what you get out of eldritch knight. If you don't want to attack with weapons (except maybe in the same situations that a single class wizard would bust out his quarterstaff), then you shouldn't be taking classes that sacrifice what you want to do (cast spells) to make you better at something you don't want to do (use weapons).</blockquote>

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