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<blockquote data-quote="Fighter1" data-source="post: 2783856" data-attributes="member: 39381"><p>That was the point of the statement.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That was the point of the statement.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then you miss my points.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because it is obvious</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have actually never heard anyone make that statement; even a person or two from WoTC (maybe MC? Don’t recall) someplace in cyberspace had stated that – no way an EK is a better caster than a Wizard; not a chance. Wizard has a higher caster level, better DC’s, Better chance to overcome SR, more spells and concentrated ability scores.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well back at ya then – you are simply wrong – nice theory, but nothing more. I have never seen a multi-class character in a cross discipline class choice, of the same level, consistently outperform single class characters. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually Cleric 10/Wizard 10 is not pushover by any means; how the heck can that be stupid? The insane spell selection available to this character! The abilities…</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here we go – Barb vs. Fighter again…silly. That is an opinion. Fast movement is nice; but I max that with medium armor. The extra skill points are only at first level; more than the fighter but only if I want them or care about them – a fighter may care less about survival as a skill especially if there is already a Ranger or Scout in the party. Rage is nice; but it only lasts so long – in this example it is really silly; fighting 10th level EL’s with first level raging? Come on. When I could get a feat instead? If you said 6/5 or something that holds far more water. But just like anything else you give something up. In the case of the fighter at first level I give up the ability to start a feat chain that much earlier…</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That’s right – dismiss it; make it irrelevant to the discussion so that you can force your point. The only thing this statement does is indicate validity or lack thereof. Mage Slayer is rare? So are EK’s. For any full blown fighter Mage Slayer is a must have; you just grab the two spellcraft cross skill ranks and now no caster can cast defensively in an are you threaten without getting whacked. That is nothing? You negate a fundamental combat advantage of spellcasters with a single feat? The cost is loosing caster levels; fighters don’t cast so there is zero problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then why did you ignore it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fighter1, post: 2783856, member: 39381"] That was the point of the statement. That was the point of the statement. Then you miss my points. Because it is obvious I have actually never heard anyone make that statement; even a person or two from WoTC (maybe MC? Don’t recall) someplace in cyberspace had stated that – no way an EK is a better caster than a Wizard; not a chance. Wizard has a higher caster level, better DC’s, Better chance to overcome SR, more spells and concentrated ability scores. Well back at ya then – you are simply wrong – nice theory, but nothing more. I have never seen a multi-class character in a cross discipline class choice, of the same level, consistently outperform single class characters. Actually Cleric 10/Wizard 10 is not pushover by any means; how the heck can that be stupid? The insane spell selection available to this character! The abilities… Here we go – Barb vs. Fighter again…silly. That is an opinion. Fast movement is nice; but I max that with medium armor. The extra skill points are only at first level; more than the fighter but only if I want them or care about them – a fighter may care less about survival as a skill especially if there is already a Ranger or Scout in the party. Rage is nice; but it only lasts so long – in this example it is really silly; fighting 10th level EL’s with first level raging? Come on. When I could get a feat instead? If you said 6/5 or something that holds far more water. But just like anything else you give something up. In the case of the fighter at first level I give up the ability to start a feat chain that much earlier… That’s right – dismiss it; make it irrelevant to the discussion so that you can force your point. The only thing this statement does is indicate validity or lack thereof. Mage Slayer is rare? So are EK’s. For any full blown fighter Mage Slayer is a must have; you just grab the two spellcraft cross skill ranks and now no caster can cast defensively in an are you threaten without getting whacked. That is nothing? You negate a fundamental combat advantage of spellcasters with a single feat? The cost is loosing caster levels; fighters don’t cast so there is zero problem. Then why did you ignore it. [/QUOTE]
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