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<blockquote data-quote="Grakarg" data-source="post: 7185571" data-attributes="member: 41096"><p>Yeah thats a good question!</p><p></p><p>Here's how they work and interact: BB & GFB use the Cast a Spell action and cause you to make a melee attack as part of the spell. If you hit, you get the standard melee attack damage plus the cantrip's effects of extra damage.</p><p>With War Magic, this triggers a second melee attack as a Bonus action, since you had cast a cantrip.</p><p>So thats 2 attacks + bonus cantrip damage total.</p><p></p><p>Note that while BB & GFB cause you to make a melee attack, you use the Cast a Spell action and NOT the Attack action. That means your Extra Attack feature does NOT trigger, since it needs the Attack action to trigger.</p><p></p><p>At some levels, you'll do more damage with War Magic and a cantrip, but once you get three attacks from Extra Attack, you'll need to use some strategy. Sometimes the 2 attacks + cantrip damage will be more effective. Sometimes the Extra Attack feature will be doing more damage.</p><p></p><p>Part of that strategy will be to decide if you need access to your Bonus action or not, since War Magic uses it up.</p><p>So, for example, I've had to use my bonus action to cast Misty Step to get deep into thick of the enemy and then I just use my extra attack feature. Other times fighting just one solo opponent, i've used BB instead.</p><p></p><p>At level 5 when you first get Extra attack, your Cantrip damage also increases so... some fights you may want to strike once with your cantrip, or you might want to strike twice with Extra attack. Sometimes the Extra Attack feature is better, but not always. As a good fighter you'll want to have as many options as possible for different situations.</p><p></p><p>Here is a final wrinkle to remember too- attacks aren't always for striking with your weapon. You can shove creatures away and knock them prone instead, but only if you use the Attack action. So with Extra attack, you can knock someone prone (using your beefy athletics score) use the rest of your attacks with advantage, then maybe trigger an action surge to chop them with booming blade again with advantage.</p><p></p><p>Hope that helps</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grakarg, post: 7185571, member: 41096"] Yeah thats a good question! Here's how they work and interact: BB & GFB use the Cast a Spell action and cause you to make a melee attack as part of the spell. If you hit, you get the standard melee attack damage plus the cantrip's effects of extra damage. With War Magic, this triggers a second melee attack as a Bonus action, since you had cast a cantrip. So thats 2 attacks + bonus cantrip damage total. Note that while BB & GFB cause you to make a melee attack, you use the Cast a Spell action and NOT the Attack action. That means your Extra Attack feature does NOT trigger, since it needs the Attack action to trigger. At some levels, you'll do more damage with War Magic and a cantrip, but once you get three attacks from Extra Attack, you'll need to use some strategy. Sometimes the 2 attacks + cantrip damage will be more effective. Sometimes the Extra Attack feature will be doing more damage. Part of that strategy will be to decide if you need access to your Bonus action or not, since War Magic uses it up. So, for example, I've had to use my bonus action to cast Misty Step to get deep into thick of the enemy and then I just use my extra attack feature. Other times fighting just one solo opponent, i've used BB instead. At level 5 when you first get Extra attack, your Cantrip damage also increases so... some fights you may want to strike once with your cantrip, or you might want to strike twice with Extra attack. Sometimes the Extra Attack feature is better, but not always. As a good fighter you'll want to have as many options as possible for different situations. Here is a final wrinkle to remember too- attacks aren't always for striking with your weapon. You can shove creatures away and knock them prone instead, but only if you use the Attack action. So with Extra attack, you can knock someone prone (using your beefy athletics score) use the rest of your attacks with advantage, then maybe trigger an action surge to chop them with booming blade again with advantage. Hope that helps [/QUOTE]
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