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<blockquote data-quote="Votan" data-source="post: 3246296" data-attributes="member: 18680">True but slowing access to invocations is rarely a good idea.&nbsp; Multi-classing in a way that delays access to deceive item makes the ability to use items less able.&nbsp; Or, if you take 4 levels of Warlock to get this, you still lag in UMD or you have to spend unfavorable skill point exchanges to build up this ability.&nbsp; You use the dimension door example.&nbsp; Without this combination of classes, a warlock can do this at level 6 (if he takes it as his first lesser invocation).&nbsp; However, a warlock 3/Evoker 3/Eldritch Theruge 3 gets the same ability at level 9.&nbsp; That is a significant delay.&nbsp; In return you cast 3rd level arcane spells and have slightly more DR.&nbsp; That is a tough trade that polays against your strengths.&nbsp; It is possible that some &quot;trick&quot; could avoid the investment of 3 wizard or warlock levels but, in general, this can't be assumed.&nbsp; Since the Eldritch theurge's special abilities are weaker than a generic warlock except for the ability to enhance blasts with spells, this suggests that going with blasts is the point of this class.&nbsp; This has the same issues that all hybrids have -- you lag at least 3 levels in pinnacle abilities.&nbsp; This means you wait longer for the very useful Dark invocations (19th level instead of 16th).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Votan, post: 3246296, member: 18680"] True but slowing access to invocations is rarely a good idea. Multi-classing in a way that delays access to deceive item makes the ability to use items less able. Or, if you take 4 levels of Warlock to get this, you still lag in UMD or you have to spend unfavorable skill point exchanges to build up this ability. You use the dimension door example. Without this combination of classes, a warlock can do this at level 6 (if he takes it as his first lesser invocation). However, a warlock 3/Evoker 3/Eldritch Theruge 3 gets the same ability at level 9. That is a significant delay. In return you cast 3rd level arcane spells and have slightly more DR. That is a tough trade that polays against your strengths. It is possible that some "trick" could avoid the investment of 3 wizard or warlock levels but, in general, this can't be assumed. Since the Eldritch theurge's special abilities are weaker than a generic warlock except for the ability to enhance blasts with spells, this suggests that going with blasts is the point of this class. This has the same issues that all hybrids have -- you lag at least 3 levels in pinnacle abilities. This means you wait longer for the very useful Dark invocations (19th level instead of 16th). [/QUOTE]

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