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<blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 6083291" data-attributes="member: 4936"><p>Well, changing the array away from Dynamic means you free up 1pp per slot switched.</p><p></p><p>Also, I think you can reduce the number of slots required for the array, which either saves you more points, or frees up points to expand the value of the array. </p><p></p><p>Either way, you win.</p><p></p><p>As for 1...let me repost for a second so I can dissect...</p><p></p><p><em>I'm not really using senses with counter concealment to say I can see concealed spirit, I'm describing that there are invisible spirits everywhere talking to Quevadyn and so say you are standing behind a wall, she's not really seeing thru walls but there is a spirit telling her you are standing there. The point is not to see spirits, but to see everything using spirits. Is that possible? Would that be visual instead of mental, it's mental from the spirits to her, and I don't imagine spirits really use eyes.</em></p><p></p><p>Okay...yes it is possible, but you have to think in terms of what the mechanical effect is, not the flavor text.</p><p></p><p>So basically, you want to be able to detect things through walls, for example. Since she's hearing things that tell her where objects are, I'd say pattern this sense off of Hearing. If she's deaf, it won't work. This makes the power work kind of like Sonar, only instead of hearing 'pings,' she's hearing a spirit go, "He's over here." </p><p></p><p>Now you can buy stuff for it off of that.</p><p></p><p>A few wrinkles to consider.</p><p></p><p>Since the sense is hearing, powers like illusions and concealment only block it if they work on hearing. So you probably don't need Counters Concealment/Illusions. Penetrates Concealment would still be appropriate to 'hear' things through walls.</p><p></p><p>How do the spirits find things? This might be a kind of weird "hybrid" thing, where spirits have to SEE the target, then tell you. In which case I would call the sense Visionm since the most important part is the part where the spirits have to see the target. The whispering can be considered uninterruptible...making it essentially just a piece of flavor text for a sense that acts exactly like super vision, even if you experience it as whispering.</p><p></p><p>In that case, you wouldn't need it to be Accurate, because Vision is already that. You should consider what conditions block the spirit's sight though. Can they see in the dark? Can they see invisible things? Can they see things made invisible?</p><p></p><p>You can say yes to those things, but it will be very expensive. Perhaps over time, she learns to interpret the whispers better, or can harness the whispers of more powerful, less limited spirits.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shayuri, post: 6083291, member: 4936"] Well, changing the array away from Dynamic means you free up 1pp per slot switched. Also, I think you can reduce the number of slots required for the array, which either saves you more points, or frees up points to expand the value of the array. Either way, you win. As for 1...let me repost for a second so I can dissect... [I]I'm not really using senses with counter concealment to say I can see concealed spirit, I'm describing that there are invisible spirits everywhere talking to Quevadyn and so say you are standing behind a wall, she's not really seeing thru walls but there is a spirit telling her you are standing there. The point is not to see spirits, but to see everything using spirits. Is that possible? Would that be visual instead of mental, it's mental from the spirits to her, and I don't imagine spirits really use eyes.[/I] Okay...yes it is possible, but you have to think in terms of what the mechanical effect is, not the flavor text. So basically, you want to be able to detect things through walls, for example. Since she's hearing things that tell her where objects are, I'd say pattern this sense off of Hearing. If she's deaf, it won't work. This makes the power work kind of like Sonar, only instead of hearing 'pings,' she's hearing a spirit go, "He's over here." Now you can buy stuff for it off of that. A few wrinkles to consider. Since the sense is hearing, powers like illusions and concealment only block it if they work on hearing. So you probably don't need Counters Concealment/Illusions. Penetrates Concealment would still be appropriate to 'hear' things through walls. How do the spirits find things? This might be a kind of weird "hybrid" thing, where spirits have to SEE the target, then tell you. In which case I would call the sense Visionm since the most important part is the part where the spirits have to see the target. The whispering can be considered uninterruptible...making it essentially just a piece of flavor text for a sense that acts exactly like super vision, even if you experience it as whispering. In that case, you wouldn't need it to be Accurate, because Vision is already that. You should consider what conditions block the spirit's sight though. Can they see in the dark? Can they see invisible things? Can they see things made invisible? You can say yes to those things, but it will be very expensive. Perhaps over time, she learns to interpret the whispers better, or can harness the whispers of more powerful, less limited spirits. [/QUOTE]
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