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<blockquote data-quote="Grazzt" data-source="post: 220900" data-attributes="member: 7"><p>Nope. Fire subtype is "Immune to fire; double damage from cold except on a succesful save."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually it does. Check the MM, page 6. Also, you can find it on page 77 in the DMG.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Normal; i.e., not double.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would say no. The description says non-magical fires and magical fires (dispelled). I would say elementals are not affected, but you could let it deal damage of some sort. I wouldnt allow the water elemental to extinguish a fire elemental or dispel it though.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why is it dumb? I can see the fire opposes water argument, but then again, I can argue that elemental fire is doused by elemental water (thus nullifying bonus damage) and elemental water evaporates against elemental fire (thus nullifying bonus damage). Either way, they more or less cancel each other out and deal normal damage. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Red dragons with the cold subtype would be really big, strong, pissed off white dragons. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Red dragons can't have the cold subtype; they have the fire subtype. Course you can Rule 0 and give it to them, but then it would really be strange to see a cold creature spitting fire. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>EDIT: Mightve misunderstood ya here. I thought you were making reference to a red dragon with the cold subtype. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Marids are in the 3e Manual of the Planes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grazzt, post: 220900, member: 7"] Nope. Fire subtype is "Immune to fire; double damage from cold except on a succesful save." Actually it does. Check the MM, page 6. Also, you can find it on page 77 in the DMG. Normal; i.e., not double. I would say no. The description says non-magical fires and magical fires (dispelled). I would say elementals are not affected, but you could let it deal damage of some sort. I wouldnt allow the water elemental to extinguish a fire elemental or dispel it though. Why is it dumb? I can see the fire opposes water argument, but then again, I can argue that elemental fire is doused by elemental water (thus nullifying bonus damage) and elemental water evaporates against elemental fire (thus nullifying bonus damage). Either way, they more or less cancel each other out and deal normal damage. Red dragons with the cold subtype would be really big, strong, pissed off white dragons. :) Red dragons can't have the cold subtype; they have the fire subtype. Course you can Rule 0 and give it to them, but then it would really be strange to see a cold creature spitting fire. :) EDIT: Mightve misunderstood ya here. I thought you were making reference to a red dragon with the cold subtype. :D Marids are in the 3e Manual of the Planes. [/QUOTE]
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