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<blockquote data-quote="nonsi256" data-source="post: 5383769" data-attributes="member: 86164"><p style="text-align: left"><strong>Quite messy.</strong></p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong></strong></p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong></strong></p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong></strong></p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong></strong></p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><u>HD:</u></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left">Use standard d8</p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><u>CLASS SKILLS</u></strong>:</p><p> <p style="text-align: left">What happened to Climb & Swim ?</p><p> <p style="text-align: left">Instead of "Speak Language Elemental(none)", just say "Automatic Languages: <native tongue>, Aquan, Auran, Ignan and Terran.</p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><u>Skill Points</u></strong>:</p><p> <p style="text-align: left">4 +Int-mod would be ok (and standard).</p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong>>> The Elemental Champions are defended by the Elemental Lords themselves gaining</strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong>>> a stone like skin when wearing light robes gaining their Wisdom(if any) to their AC.</strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left">This makes no sense.</p><p> <p style="text-align: left">If they're defended by the Elemental Lords, then this has nothing to do with their Wis.</p><p> <p style="text-align: left">Armor bonus doesn't stack and is unaffected by movement hindrance, so the "when wearing light robes" is irrelevant.</p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><u>Weapons and Armor:</u></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left">Just say "An Elemental Champion is Proficient with maces, hammers, clubs and picks. An Elemental Champion is not proficient with any armor or shield".</p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><u>Feats:</u></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left">>> Elemental Champions do not get Level (1,5,9,&13) Feats since</p><p> <p style="text-align: left">These are not standard levels where feats are gained anyway.</p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left">>> they gain all Two Weapon Feats for free without the pre-reqs.</p><p> <p style="text-align: left">I fail to see how built-in TWF has anything to do with the elemental theme.</p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><u>Saves:</u></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left">Make them standard (good, poor and good – respectively).</p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><u>Tempests' Counterattack</u></strong>:</p><p> <p style="text-align: left">There are feats that do similar things and none is in effect all the time (and most have prereqs).</p><p> <p style="text-align: left">This heavily steps on the toes of the martial classes.</p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><u>Command Water:</u></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left">Nice if you wish to be a gardener, but not very useful combat-wise.</p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><u>Supreme Tempest's Counterattack</u></strong>:</p><p> <p style="text-align: left">"Go sit in the corner and cry your heart out, Warblade. And you Fighter, you might just as well kill yourself"</p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left">I really think you should rebuild this one from the ground up (I did for a lot of my homebrew stuff – often more than once)</p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p> <p style="text-align: left">One more thing. Center-align is really eye-poking. And put some line breaks before each title.</p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nonsi256, post: 5383769, member: 86164"] [LEFT][B]Quite messy. [/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][U]HD:[/U][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT]Use standard d8[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][B][U]CLASS SKILLS[/U][/B]:[/LEFT] [LEFT]What happened to Climb & Swim ?[/LEFT] [LEFT]Instead of "Speak Language Elemental(none)", just say "Automatic Languages: <native tongue>, Aquan, Auran, Ignan and Terran.[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][B][U]Skill Points[/U][/B]:[/LEFT] [LEFT]4 +Int-mod would be ok (and standard).[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][B]>> The Elemental Champions are defended by the Elemental Lords themselves gaining[/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B]>> a stone like skin when wearing light robes gaining their Wisdom(if any) to their AC.[/B][/LEFT] [LEFT]This makes no sense.[/LEFT] [LEFT]If they're defended by the Elemental Lords, then this has nothing to do with their Wis.[/LEFT] [LEFT]Armor bonus doesn't stack and is unaffected by movement hindrance, so the "when wearing light robes" is irrelevant.[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][B][U]Weapons and Armor:[/U][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT]Just say "An Elemental Champion is Proficient with maces, hammers, clubs and picks. An Elemental Champion is not proficient with any armor or shield".[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][B][U]Feats:[/U][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT]>> Elemental Champions do not get Level (1,5,9,&13) Feats since[/LEFT] [LEFT]These are not standard levels where feats are gained anyway.[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT]>> they gain all Two Weapon Feats for free without the pre-reqs.[/LEFT] [LEFT]I fail to see how built-in TWF has anything to do with the elemental theme.[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][B][U]Saves:[/U][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT]Make them standard (good, poor and good – respectively).[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][B][U]Tempests' Counterattack[/U][/B]:[/LEFT] [LEFT]There are feats that do similar things and none is in effect all the time (and most have prereqs).[/LEFT] [LEFT]This heavily steps on the toes of the martial classes.[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][B][U]Command Water:[/U][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT]Nice if you wish to be a gardener, but not very useful combat-wise.[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][B][U]Supreme Tempest's Counterattack[/U][/B]:[/LEFT] [LEFT]"Go sit in the corner and cry your heart out, Warblade. And you Fighter, you might just as well kill yourself"[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT]I really think you should rebuild this one from the ground up (I did for a lot of my homebrew stuff – often more than once)[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT]One more thing. Center-align is really eye-poking. And put some line breaks before each title. [/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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