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<blockquote data-quote="Eldritch_Lord" data-source="post: 5385499" data-attributes="member: 52073"><p>I noticed the changes; I was remarking on the "taking default feats away" portion to reinforce nonsi's comment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1) I figured out that that's what you meant; however, when you place a nonstandard HD amount in the HD section, you can't simply <em>assume</em> people will read it the same way you did.</p><p></p><p>2) You don't "add uniqueness" to a class by giving it multiple HD, or a strange save progression, or an odd number of skill points, or something like that. Every little tweak like that that you add makes it slightly less compatible with the system and slightly more difficult for people to just pick up and play. Add uniqueness in the class features and leave the chassis alone.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I realize it's a WIP, and yes, I realize you asked for constructive criticism. That's about as constructive as I can make it; I pointed out something to clarify and tried to get you to think about exactly what you were doing. As for the rest, I'm serious in saying the class doesn't really <em>do</em> anything that any 3.5 character couldn't do with a bunch of magic items and feats except for the Control Water ability, and again a custom spell or item that did that would be much more worthwhile than a custom class. If I were to give "constructive criticism" it would simply be to go through every ability and say "A magic item/spell giving this costs X gp, you'd need Y to be competitive at this level, replace it with Z ability."</p><p></p><p>I agree with nonsi that this class needs a rewrite from the ground up. And I don't often agree with nonsi when it comes to homebrew.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eldritch_Lord, post: 5385499, member: 52073"] I noticed the changes; I was remarking on the "taking default feats away" portion to reinforce nonsi's comment. 1) I figured out that that's what you meant; however, when you place a nonstandard HD amount in the HD section, you can't simply [I]assume[/I] people will read it the same way you did. 2) You don't "add uniqueness" to a class by giving it multiple HD, or a strange save progression, or an odd number of skill points, or something like that. Every little tweak like that that you add makes it slightly less compatible with the system and slightly more difficult for people to just pick up and play. Add uniqueness in the class features and leave the chassis alone. Yes, I realize it's a WIP, and yes, I realize you asked for constructive criticism. That's about as constructive as I can make it; I pointed out something to clarify and tried to get you to think about exactly what you were doing. As for the rest, I'm serious in saying the class doesn't really [I]do[/I] anything that any 3.5 character couldn't do with a bunch of magic items and feats except for the Control Water ability, and again a custom spell or item that did that would be much more worthwhile than a custom class. If I were to give "constructive criticism" it would simply be to go through every ability and say "A magic item/spell giving this costs X gp, you'd need Y to be competitive at this level, replace it with Z ability." I agree with nonsi that this class needs a rewrite from the ground up. And I don't often agree with nonsi when it comes to homebrew. [/QUOTE]
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