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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4934731" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>Nah, I can see a Fire Elemental being broken apart by a massive wave of magical fire. The fire elemental loses parts of himself to the fire. He is not burning hotter or anything, but a large part of him becomes is just washed away, like a human that is hit by a wave of water. It's not like water is burning acid to us, but we can drown in it and a wave with enough force sweeps us away.</p><p></p><p>That is primarily an argument against fire immunity, but it can also be used to reason why some resistances might be overcome or ignored.</p><p></p><p>But in the end I must say that I am not a big fan of ignoring resistances and immunities. I think that is a cheap way out and maybe a little like an "I win" button. The challenge is dealing with a monster with resistances. Can't we solve this a little more interesting then saying "I ignore it?" </p><p></p><p>I like the idea of "subverting" the resistances. If you cast a Fireball spell, you have power over fire itself. So if you hit a creature that is resistant to fire due to magic, you of course have the power to also disrupt this resistance or dispe it. If a creature is resistant to fire because it is composed of it, casting a spell giving you power over fire could give you power over the creature caught in it, too. Instead of dealing damage, you charm or dominate it for a short time!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4934731, member: 710"] Nah, I can see a Fire Elemental being broken apart by a massive wave of magical fire. The fire elemental loses parts of himself to the fire. He is not burning hotter or anything, but a large part of him becomes is just washed away, like a human that is hit by a wave of water. It's not like water is burning acid to us, but we can drown in it and a wave with enough force sweeps us away. That is primarily an argument against fire immunity, but it can also be used to reason why some resistances might be overcome or ignored. But in the end I must say that I am not a big fan of ignoring resistances and immunities. I think that is a cheap way out and maybe a little like an "I win" button. The challenge is dealing with a monster with resistances. Can't we solve this a little more interesting then saying "I ignore it?" I like the idea of "subverting" the resistances. If you cast a Fireball spell, you have power over fire itself. So if you hit a creature that is resistant to fire due to magic, you of course have the power to also disrupt this resistance or dispe it. If a creature is resistant to fire because it is composed of it, casting a spell giving you power over fire could give you power over the creature caught in it, too. Instead of dealing damage, you charm or dominate it for a short time! [/QUOTE]
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