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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kurotowa" data-source="post: 3784654" data-attributes="member: 27957">They have?  Really?  I don't think I could name two books that managed that, let alone six.Look, they've been pretty blunt about what their goal is.  Observe what people actually do with the game, and make it easier for them to do that.  Of course the elemental planes have a few die hard fans, everything does.  But have most groups used them regularly?  Used them ever?  The only time I've ever brushed against them in actual play was Bastion of Broken Souls, and that barely mattered for the actual adventure.  So why not ditch them for something that has more game potential?  Cause I can't argue that as they currently stand, the elemental planes are a pain in the ass to visit and don't have anything worth seeing anyway.Sacred cow, it's what's for dinner.</blockquote>