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Message: <blockquote data-quote="see" data-source="post: 3788810" data-attributes="member: 10531">I would be perfectly fine with that.  All the reference to them in the three AD&D 1e core books was being named in the PHB, showing up on the PHB's planar diagram, and a couple passing mentions in spell/magic item/monster descriptions.  The original 3e core books had a sentence in the PHB glossary about the Elemental Planes and a few passing references in spells/items/monster descriptions.  I'm not asking for 3.5 levels of coverage (much less coverage on the level of Manual of the Planes, Planescape boxed set, or The Inner Planes), just a small nod to continuity and those of us that happen to like the Elemental Planes.  (I'd like a sentence each for Quasi- and Para- Elemental Planes, too, but I'll let that sleeping dog lie.)If they then wanted to spend a bunch of detail on (a) new, additional plane(s) at the same time, inhabited by elementals and genies or whatever?  Hey, go right ahead!  Just leave the one sentence mention of the Elemental Planes, and all my objections melt away.  Or if they just want to spruce up the existing Elemental Planes, again, I have no objection.But, once again, that's not what they're doing, according to the blog post I quoted.  They are taking out the Elemental Planes and putting in an alternative.  Maybe he miswrote, and we'll find out the Elemental Planes are still in.  I'd sure like that to be the case.  I'm not betting heavily on that.I see some have taken me to task for suggesting the only reason to not include even a single sentence to retain cosmological continuity was that the designers wanted change for change's sake, saying the reasons presented in the blog post explained the situation just fine.  Well, if the PHB and DMG are both so tightly written that there's no way to slip in Elemental Plane: One of the Inner Planes consisting entirely of one type of matter: Air, Earth, Fire, or Water without eliminating something "interesting", I'll admit I was too quick to accuse the change of being merely for the sake of change.  Presumably, if the PHB and DMG turn out not to be so tightly written, they will admit I was correct and that the explanations given in the post do not explain the elimination of the Elemental Planes.</blockquote>

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