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<blockquote data-quote="GVDammerung" data-source="post: 3797033" data-attributes="member: 33060"><p>I'm guessing this is &quot;another brick in the . . .&quot; mauseleum for 4e that Wotc is constructing.&nbsp; When all these fluff changes are added up, and then the rules changes that narrow the game through &quot;roles&quot; etc. are added in, I'm guessing 4e sales to the existing fanbase are going to look less well than 3x.&nbsp; Its like asking someone used to comfortable fit clothing to start wearing body suits - 4e constricts both players and DMs in how the game is played with the RAW (as far as it has been revealed at this point).&nbsp; I think the 4e &quot;snuggy&quot; is going to bind a fair number of people, just enough to hurt 4e's sales just enough to see it not meet sales expectations.&nbsp; At least when Hasbro disciplines Wotc for 4e's lackluster performance we will get 5e faster from a chasened Wotc.&nbsp; By itself changing the elemental planes is no huge deal but added to the tally - its one more brick.&nbsp; These announced changes add up; it is not a zero sum game.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="GVDammerung, post: 3797033, member: 33060"] I'm guessing this is "another brick in the . . ." mauseleum for 4e that Wotc is constructing. When all these fluff changes are added up, and then the rules changes that narrow the game through "roles" etc. are added in, I'm guessing 4e sales to the existing fanbase are going to look less well than 3x. Its like asking someone used to comfortable fit clothing to start wearing body suits - 4e constricts both players and DMs in how the game is played with the RAW (as far as it has been revealed at this point). I think the 4e "snuggy" is going to bind a fair number of people, just enough to hurt 4e's sales just enough to see it not meet sales expectations. At least when Hasbro disciplines Wotc for 4e's lackluster performance we will get 5e faster from a chasened Wotc. By itself changing the elemental planes is no huge deal but added to the tally - its one more brick. These announced changes add up; it is not a zero sum game. [/QUOTE]

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