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<blockquote data-quote="mhacdebhandia" data-source="post: 3798442" data-attributes="member: 18832"><p>In my opinion: Planescape was far better as a setting in its own right than as a misbegotten attempt to force every published <em>AD&D</em> setting into a Great Wheel into which they simply didn't fit.</p><p></p><p>That's why all of the best supplements for it don't have anything to do with Toril, Oerth, Krynn, Athas, <em>et cetera</em>, and instead rely on setting material specific to Planescape.</p><p></p><p>It's a clear violation of the original design of the various official <em>AD&D</em> settings to staple them to the Great Wheel. Ed Greenwood may have been content to go along with it, but obviously it bothered Margaret Weis - and it outright <strong>weakens</strong> Dark Sun as a setting to retcon its established cosmology and slap it into Spelljammer and Planescape. It's not "up for debate" that Dark Sun didn't use the Great Wheel, it's fact.</p><p></p><p>Shemeska, I know you've got a lot personally invested in the whole Forgotten Realms + Planescape thing you do, but I think the majority of gamers reckon the whole idea of a crossover between the official settings is garbage.</p><p></p><p>The best parts of Planescape are specific to Planescape, and I believe the setting is weakened when it's associated with the baggage of other published settings.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mhacdebhandia, post: 3798442, member: 18832"] In my opinion: Planescape was far better as a setting in its own right than as a misbegotten attempt to force every published [i]AD&D[/i] setting into a Great Wheel into which they simply didn't fit. That's why all of the best supplements for it don't have anything to do with Toril, Oerth, Krynn, Athas, [i]et cetera[/i], and instead rely on setting material specific to Planescape. It's a clear violation of the original design of the various official [i]AD&D[/i] settings to staple them to the Great Wheel. Ed Greenwood may have been content to go along with it, but obviously it bothered Margaret Weis - and it outright [b]weakens[/b] Dark Sun as a setting to retcon its established cosmology and slap it into Spelljammer and Planescape. It's not "up for debate" that Dark Sun didn't use the Great Wheel, it's fact. Shemeska, I know you've got a lot personally invested in the whole Forgotten Realms + Planescape thing you do, but I think the majority of gamers reckon the whole idea of a crossover between the official settings is garbage. The best parts of Planescape are specific to Planescape, and I believe the setting is weakened when it's associated with the baggage of other published settings. [/QUOTE]
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