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<blockquote data-quote="Arnwyn" data-source="post: 3799055" data-attributes="member: 7701">You continue to be wrong in the case of the Forgotten Realms. It used the Great Wheel from day 1 of publishing (which is, of course, the proper definition of 'right from the start'). The cute little &quot;Ed Greenwood didn't use it from the start&quot; is a nonsensical strawman (and, as shown in his Dragon articles, he did use it even then long before FR was published). Go figure.I suspect he's hoping for a little more evidence and statistics, as opposed to some random internet guy screaming some unsubstantiated &quot;4 people!&quot; &quot;Very few!&quot; &quot;A minority!&quot;. (The whole &quot;majority/minority&quot; fallacy that overfills the internet does get tiresome after a while. Why do people still spew it out, I wonder? Ah, all my statistics and polling courses does make reading internet messageboards a little painful at times.) So, with that said... got any?[And before some misguided ENWorlder starts yowling some variation of &quot;U R teh bias!&quot;, note that I don't have a problem with the removal of the Great Wheel within the context of 4e. If there's any time to start butchering D&amp;Disms, an edition change is probably the best time to do so.]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arnwyn, post: 3799055, member: 7701"] You continue to be wrong in the case of the Forgotten Realms. It used the Great Wheel from day 1 of publishing (which is, of course, the proper definition of 'right from the start'). The cute little "Ed Greenwood didn't use it from the start" is a nonsensical strawman (and, as shown in his Dragon articles, he did use it [i]even then[/i] long before FR was published). Go figure. I suspect he's hoping for a little more evidence and statistics, as opposed to some random internet guy screaming some unsubstantiated "4 people!" "Very few!" "A minority!". (The whole "majority/minority" fallacy that overfills the internet does get tiresome after a while. Why do people still spew it out, I wonder? Ah, all my statistics and polling courses does make reading internet messageboards a little painful at times.) So, with that said... got any? [And before some misguided ENWorlder starts yowling some variation of "U R teh bias!", note that I don't have a problem with the removal of the Great Wheel within the context of 4e. If there's any time to start butchering D&Disms, an edition change is probably the best time to do so.] [/QUOTE]

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