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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kzach" data-source="post: 5660755" data-attributes="member: 56189">So, here's what a mage (pyromancer) of 12th-level might look like with this system:[sblock]Mara-kai, level 12Tiefling, Wizard (Mage), Master of FlameSchool: Pyromancy SchoolSchool: Evocation SchoolSpellscarred Harbinger Starting Feature Option: Twist FateSpellscarred Harbinger Level 10 Feature Option: Dimension ShiftExpert Mage Option: Pyromancy School ExpertMaster Mage Option: Pyromancy School MasterAkanûl (Akanûl Benefit)Theme: Spellscarred Harbinger FINAL ABILITY SCORESSTR 11, CON 17, DEX 14, INT19, WIS 9, CHA 14 AC: 16 Fort: 16 Ref: 14 Will: 16HP: 45 Surges: 9 Surge Value: 11 TRAINED SKILLSArcana +10, History +10, Religion +10 POWERSBasic Attack: Melee Basic AttackBasic Attack: Ranged Basic AttackSpellscarred Harbinger Utility: Spellscar EmpowermentTiefling Racial Power: Infernal WrathWizard Utility: Mage HandWizard Utility: PrestidigitationWizard Utility: LightWizard Attack 1: Flaming SphereWizard Attack 1: Fountain of FlameWizard Attack 1: Burning HandsWizard Attack 1: Darkening FlameWizard Attack 1: Erupting FlareWizard Attack 1: Scorching BurstWizard Attack 1: Magic MissileWizard Utility 2: ShieldWizard Utility 2: MoonstrideWizard Attack 3: Fire ShroudWizard Attack 3: CinderfallWizard Attack 5: FireballWizard Attack 5: Summon Magma BeastWizard Utility 6: Fire ShieldWizard Utility 6: Wizard's EscapeWizard Attack 7: Fire BurstWizard Attack 7: Fire Sea TravelWizard Attack 9: FirescytheWizard Attack 9: Wall of FireWizard Utility 10: Arcane GateWizard Utility 10: Illusory WallMaster of Flame Attack 11: Fanning the FlamesMaster of Flame Utility 12: Burning Transformation FEATSLevel 1: Hellfire ArcanistLevel 2: Staff ExpertiseLevel 4: ToughnessLevel 6: Unarmored AgilityLevel 8: Superior FortitudeLevel 10: Improved InitiativeLevel 11: War WizardryLevel 12: Dispater's Iron Discipline ITEMSDefensive QuarterstaffAmulet of ProtectionAdventurer's Kit[/sblock]The pyromancer's bonus to damage stacks with the feat Hellfire Arcanist and Staff Expertise still grants a +1 to hit. Toughness becomes an almost must have in this system. It still doesn't solve the problem that the feat bonuses to defences are pretty much must haves as well. In fact, it may even make them overpowered. Healing will become a more tactical proposition simply because you'll be able to heal someone from 1 to full with one use of a leader heal so you won't want to waste it until the person is really low. I can see this only exacerbating the yo-yo effect.All in all, though, I'm still positive that this is a workable system and would only require some common sense tweaks here and there to make it work whilst still having about 70-80% of 4e material usable and useful without significant or even any change.</blockquote>

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