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<blockquote data-quote="Owldragon" data-source="post: 1547899" data-attributes="member: 11733">Okay, here is my take on the questions mbgrove is raising about the Create list:The text does actually say that you need to use the Elemental Object enhancement to create Force physical objects, but the examples directly contradict that.&nbsp; The examples treat Force as one of the physical elements, like a &quot;force field.&quot;&nbsp; I tend to think that the listing of Force as one of the elements you need Elemental Object for was a mistake, but we'll have to ask the author for the definitive answer on that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As for Elemental Weapon, I do think you need something physical to enhance, even if it is a cheap sword or club.&nbsp; If you wanted a blade of Light, for example, you'd have to either:&nbsp; a) spend 2 MP on Elemental Object, and then more for Elemental Weapon&nbsp; b) use a combination spell - one spell list to create a physical weapon for 1 MP and then Create Light to add the Elemental Weapon damageOf course, if Force really works like the examples indicate, you might be able to spend up to your maximum MP on Elemental Weapon, and also create the weapon that is being enhanced without having to take the Elemental Object enhancement.That's how I read things, anyway.While we're talking about the Create lists, btw... the wording of Create Light implies that the created object sheds light, but I don't see any problem with just having the light generated from a point in space.&nbsp; I've also thought about whether or not it would be a good idea to allow the light to come from an existing object.&nbsp; If that is allowed, then you have to determine if you can light up attended objects, like the armor of a thief who's trying to hide.&nbsp; I would say that you can make light come from a point in space or an object you create; I'm still ambivalent about other objects.&nbsp; Any thoughts?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Owldragon, post: 1547899, member: 11733"] Okay, here is my take on the questions [B]mbgrove[/B] is raising about the Create list: The text does actually say that you need to use the Elemental Object enhancement to create Force physical objects, but the examples directly contradict that. The examples treat Force as one of the physical elements, like a "force field." I tend to think that the listing of Force as one of the elements you need Elemental Object for was a mistake, but we'll have to ask the author for the definitive answer on that. :) As for Elemental Weapon, I do think you need something physical to enhance, even if it is a cheap sword or club. If you wanted a blade of Light, for example, you'd have to either: a) spend 2 MP on Elemental Object, and then more for Elemental Weapon b) use a combination spell - one spell list to create a physical weapon for 1 MP and then Create Light to add the Elemental Weapon damage Of course, if Force really works like the examples indicate, you might be able to spend up to your maximum MP on Elemental Weapon, and also create the weapon that is being enhanced without having to take the Elemental Object enhancement. That's how I read things, anyway. While we're talking about the Create lists, btw... the wording of Create Light implies that the created object sheds light, but I don't see any problem with just having the light generated from a point in space. I've also thought about whether or not it would be a good idea to allow the light to come from an existing object. If that is allowed, then you have to determine if you can light up attended objects, like the armor of a thief who's trying to hide. I would say that you can make light come from a point in space or an object you create; I'm still ambivalent about other objects. Any thoughts? [/QUOTE]

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