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<blockquote data-quote="Verequus" data-source="post: 1796674" data-attributes="member: 9135">Two addendums to my post above:&nbsp;1. It isn't clear, if Spell List Specialist feat can be used several times at once. For example, I have chosen three Evoke [Element] lists and create a Evoke A 2/Evoke B 2/Evoke C 2/Gen X spell. Can I pay 3 MP less than usual? If yes, would that be unbalancing? If yes, my proposal above would weaken it.&nbsp;&nbsp;2. For those unfamiliar with Upper_Krusts CR-system: He rates a feat to be worth a +0.2 CR and integrated spellcasting levels of a wizard as +0.44 and of a cleric as +0.37. Because he didn't rate psionics and my belief, that mages are of similar power as psions, I estimate an integrated mage spellcasting level as +0.40. (Integrated spellcasting means the same like &quot;Able to cast spell like a seventh level sorcerer.&quot;.)&nbsp;&nbsp;As conclusion, two feats would be worth a spellcasting level, which stacks and behaves like a normal spellcasting level gained through a prestige class. One feat alone increases the spellcasting ability by one half, which still yields an increase of MP and the access to one spell list (ignoring the first two levels). So one feat alone increases not only the caster level, but does the job of Extra Magic Points and Extra Spell List, too - except that Extra Magic Points yields 2 or 1 point less in the low caster levels, but is slightly better with 0.5 MP more on average in the higher levels. Taking both feats two times scales only this situation.&nbsp;&nbsp;This means, that either Extra Magic Points and Extra Spell List are underpowered or one shouldn't allow the increase of the spell caster level (with increase of MP and access to new spell lists) per feat, doesn't it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Verequus, post: 1796674, member: 9135"] Two addendums to my post above: 1. It isn't clear, if Spell List Specialist feat can be used several times at once. For example, I have chosen three Evoke [Element] lists and create a Evoke A 2/Evoke B 2/Evoke C 2/Gen X spell. Can I pay 3 MP less than usual? If yes, would that be unbalancing? If yes, my proposal above would weaken it. 2. For those unfamiliar with Upper_Krusts CR-system: He rates a feat to be worth a +0.2 CR and integrated spellcasting levels of a wizard as +0.44 and of a cleric as +0.37. Because he didn't rate psionics and my belief, that mages are of similar power as psions, I estimate an integrated mage spellcasting level as +0.40. (Integrated spellcasting means the same like "Able to cast spell like a seventh level sorcerer.".) As conclusion, two feats would be worth a spellcasting level, which stacks and behaves like a normal spellcasting level gained through a prestige class. One feat alone increases the spellcasting ability by one half, which still yields an increase of MP and the access to one spell list (ignoring the first two levels). So one feat alone increases not only the caster level, but does the job of Extra Magic Points and Extra Spell List, too - except that Extra Magic Points yields 2 or 1 point less in the low caster levels, but is slightly better with 0.5 MP more on average in the higher levels. Taking both feats two times scales only this situation. This means, that either Extra Magic Points and Extra Spell List are underpowered or one shouldn't allow the increase of the spell caster level (with increase of MP and access to new spell lists) per feat, doesn't it? [/QUOTE]

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