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Elephant in the room: rogue and fighter dailies.
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<blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 5925629" data-attributes="member: 11821"><p>This is straight-up BS. I am glad you've found a style of play you like, but calling games you don't like "not RPGs" is edition war nonsense.</p><p></p><p>Here's the thing... You're proposing that these two examples are different in some sort of fundamental, absolute way...</p><p></p><p>(1) A game of where everyone at the table is running normal characters, exploring dungeons, crawling around the wilderness, and so on. One is a fighter-type character has powers that he can only use a few times per day.</p><p></p><p>(2) The same game, but the fighter's player thinks of his character as a member of a mystic order, and he's invented some magic mumbo-jumbo about the 1/day abilities.</p><p></p><p>...and (1) is not an RPG, while (2) is. And the same holds true if the Fighter player never once mentions his justifications or reasons to the table. Heck; in (1) the other players may not even be aware that, according to this standard, they're not even actually playing a roleplaying game.</p><p></p><p>Heck; even picking a longsword instead of a battleaxe in 1e because the former rolls a d12 vs. Large creatures; or picking chain instead of scale because of the AC table instead of which allows for better maneuverability is a "dissociated" decision.</p><p></p><p>It's fine to have a preferred play-style, but the "not an RPG" nonsense is needlessly divisive. Not only does it rule out 4e, but also 3.5's Eberron (action points), Arcana Evolved (hero points), and so on.</p><p></p><p>-O</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Obryn, post: 5925629, member: 11821"] This is straight-up BS. I am glad you've found a style of play you like, but calling games you don't like "not RPGs" is edition war nonsense. Here's the thing... You're proposing that these two examples are different in some sort of fundamental, absolute way... (1) A game of where everyone at the table is running normal characters, exploring dungeons, crawling around the wilderness, and so on. One is a fighter-type character has powers that he can only use a few times per day. (2) The same game, but the fighter's player thinks of his character as a member of a mystic order, and he's invented some magic mumbo-jumbo about the 1/day abilities. ...and (1) is not an RPG, while (2) is. And the same holds true if the Fighter player never once mentions his justifications or reasons to the table. Heck; in (1) the other players may not even be aware that, according to this standard, they're not even actually playing a roleplaying game. Heck; even picking a longsword instead of a battleaxe in 1e because the former rolls a d12 vs. Large creatures; or picking chain instead of scale because of the AC table instead of which allows for better maneuverability is a "dissociated" decision. It's fine to have a preferred play-style, but the "not an RPG" nonsense is needlessly divisive. Not only does it rule out 4e, but also 3.5's Eberron (action points), Arcana Evolved (hero points), and so on. -O [/QUOTE]
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