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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 5926437" data-attributes="member: 1656">You're answering different questions.I'm answering the question "How can the Come And Get It Power be narrated to justify why the sorcerer is now in melee range of the scary fighter?"You're answering "How can we mechanically resolve an action to drop a chandelier on a sorcerer?"I'm saying that if the game mechanics tell us "The sorcerer ends your action in this square", then we don't need to consult a different rules subsystem to determine whether I was able to grab him and how far I managed to throw him.  We already know that he ended up in this square - the power says so.  So we know the answer to how far I threw him - far enough to land in that square.  We know whether I was able to grab him - obviously I could, since I managed to throw him.We could tell the same story using an unarmed touch attack, a grapple check, and some sort of strength check.  But in 4E, we can tell that story with Come And Get It.One of my favourite GMs has a stock answer to the question "Is there, like, a rope I can swing on?""There's always a rope."But apart from that - as a GM, I love it when players interact with the environment, rather than just moving across a flat floor to hit something with a sword.  Whether I supplied the environmental elements or they do, it makes for a more cinematic experience.So what's the negative to there being a rug in the room that I hadn't prepared in advance?Well, of course it was.  But an identical scene could result from a 4E Ranger using Split The Tree against a pair of opponents.Is it a bad thing if a D&D combat ends up producing similar visuals to an action movie?-Hyp.</blockquote>

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