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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9286507" data-attributes="member: 58172">There isnt a consistent ability score improvement, because each improvement depends on the specific Elf concept. To force the &quot;wrong&quot; ability improvement on a concept is ... wrong.For example, the 4e Sun Elf has score improvements of Charisma +2 and Intelligence +2. The 2e Grey Elf has Intelligence +2. When 5e 2014 forced EVERY Sun Elf and every Grey Elf to be Dexterity +2 and Intelligence +1, it contradicted over 20 years of D&amp;D tradition.Plus, there is Grugach Strength, Athasian Constitution, 4e Wood Elf Wisdom, etcetera.The Elf, especially, requires floating ability improvements, that the player decides.In 2024, those Elves who grow up learning wizardry and politics in an Eladrin Fey Court political culture, will often develop Arcana and Persuasion, along with Intelligence +2 or Charisma +2.Assuming there are bell curves, the outliers of these two populations overlap. It might be the individual with Constitution score 1 is a Dwarf. It might be the individual with Constitution score 30 is an Elf. At the same time, the population of Dwarves might still have more individuals with a high Constitution score.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9286507, member: 58172"] There isnt a consistent ability score improvement, because each improvement depends on the specific Elf concept. To force the "wrong" ability improvement on a concept is ... wrong. For example, the 4e Sun Elf has score improvements of Charisma +2 and Intelligence +2. The 2e Grey Elf has Intelligence +2. When 5e 2014 forced EVERY Sun Elf and every Grey Elf to be Dexterity +2 and Intelligence +1, it [I]contradicted[/I] over 20 years of D&D tradition. Plus, there is Grugach Strength, Athasian Constitution, 4e Wood Elf Wisdom, etcetera. The Elf, especially, requires floating ability improvements, that the player decides. In 2024, those Elves who grow up learning wizardry and politics in an Eladrin Fey Court political culture, will often develop Arcana and Persuasion, along with Intelligence +2 or Charisma +2. Assuming there are bell curves, the outliers of these two populations overlap. It might be the individual with Constitution score 1 is a Dwarf. It might be the individual with Constitution score 30 is an Elf. At the same time, the population of Dwarves might still have more individuals with a high Constitution score. [/QUOTE]

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