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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Haldrik" data-source="post: 8040883" data-attributes="member: 6694221">An earlier 5e Unearhed Arcana offered a Grugach that was simply a "branch of elf". But it failed to receive enough support. So while Mordenkainens did go ahead with Eladrin, Sea Elf, and Shadar-Kai, it left the Grugach behind.It is hard to say which problem was most objectionable. Problems included.• The current 5e Elf format forced too rigidly that every elf MUST have Dex +2, regardless of whether this concept makes sense or not. Relatedly, the subrace design space for the 5e elf offers less room to flesh out a potent concept.• The UA Grugach was Dex +2 and Str +1. So the resulting UA Grugach failed to feel like an elf with exceptional Strength. The concept fell flat.• The old school Wood Elf is a Strength elf, and even the 3e Wood Elf is, and the old school Grugach is even stronger. Nevertheless this concept of a strong elf seems out of favor within the D&D community. There even seems to be resistance against any elf having extreme Strength. Perhaps the D&D elf concept has become so inherently androgynous? So characteristics of hyper masculinity including Strength feel less acceptable now?Perhaps there are other objections to the UA Grugach as well.The Elf-Orc Grugach happens to address these concerns.• Where the 5e elf format is too inflexible and defacto too uncustomizable, the introduction of Elf-Orc breaks out of the elf design space, similar to how the 5e Elf-Human breaks out of the elf design space.• Strength +2 becomes appropriate for the design for the concept.• The D&D community allows the Orc to be hyper masculine, and expects the Orc to exhibit extreme Strength. So Orc parentage of the Elf-Orc gains "permission" from the D&D community, for this elf concept to exhibit extreme Strength.Moreover, the "savage" aspect of the Orc culture feels appropriate for the Grugach culture as well.</blockquote>

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