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<blockquote data-quote="evildmguy" data-source="post: 5994766" data-attributes="member: 6092">Seriously?&nbsp; That's what you wanted to add to this conversation?I mean, it's not just that people want different things.&nbsp; It's that people want different things at different times.&nbsp; What works for someone as a new DM doesn't work for them later.&nbsp; It's my understanding that Ed used Elminster to get people started on a mission and then left them to it.&nbsp; Nothing wrong with that and if it gives a DM, any DM, more ideas, great.&nbsp; Twenty years ago, I loved Driz'zt and would defend Salvatore.&nbsp; Now?&nbsp; Not so much.&nbsp; To me, he hasn't aged well.&nbsp; Or he's writing the same way, which works for most people, but doesn't work for me anymore.&nbsp; So, to me, this thread is about why we did or did not like Elminster, or Driz'zt, and what we did or do about them.&nbsp; Ideas that we used that maybe someone else will use.&nbsp; And, yes, in the 3E FRCS, page 5 was Elminster.&nbsp; That was the point.&nbsp; He was the front man for the Realms.&nbsp; I don't think that was popularity; that was Ed using his alter ego to introduce the Realms.&nbsp; Name for me the front man of Greyhawk, or DragonLance or any other published world?&nbsp; I can't think of any but would love to hear what people think!&nbsp; So, yes, if you have a front man, be it Ed or Elminster, they are going to use him.&nbsp; Why wouldn't they?&nbsp; I get that some people don't want to change things like Stacie GmrGrl did below.&nbsp; I have as well but it's not for everyone.&nbsp; And there are lots of reasons for and against it.&nbsp; However, if you have ever seen Ed play Elminster?&nbsp; You would understand.&nbsp; In person, the man is very impressive and a lot of fun!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evildmguy, post: 5994766, member: 6092"] Seriously? That's what you wanted to add to this conversation? I mean, it's not just that people want different things. It's that people want different things at different times. What works for someone as a new DM doesn't work for them later. It's my understanding that Ed used Elminster to get people started on a mission and then left them to it. Nothing wrong with that and if it gives a DM, any DM, more ideas, great. Twenty years ago, I loved Driz'zt and would defend Salvatore. Now? Not so much. To me, he hasn't aged well. Or he's writing the same way, which works for most people, but doesn't work for me anymore. So, to me, this thread is about why we did or did not like Elminster, or Driz'zt, and what we did or do about them. Ideas that we used that maybe someone else will use. And, yes, in the 3E FRCS, page 5 was Elminster. That was the point. He was the front man for the Realms. I don't think that was popularity; that was Ed using his alter ego to introduce the Realms. Name for me the front man of Greyhawk, or DragonLance or any other published world? I can't think of any but would love to hear what people think! So, yes, if you have a front man, be it Ed or Elminster, they are going to use him. Why wouldn't they? I get that some people don't want to change things like Stacie GmrGrl did below. I have as well but it's not for everyone. And there are lots of reasons for and against it. However, if you have ever seen Ed play Elminster? You would understand. In person, the man is very impressive and a lot of fun! [/QUOTE]

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