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<blockquote data-quote="Therise" data-source="post: 5995015" data-attributes="member: 6683949">I don't mind Elminster, really.&nbsp; As a kid, I loved those old Elminster &quot;Pages from the Mages&quot; articles way, way back in Dragon magazine.&nbsp; And the 1E version of the Realms was one of the best gaming products I ever bought.But as Elminster has grown, he's become less and less interesting to me, not more.&nbsp; Same with the Realms, generally.&nbsp; I departed from canon with the Time of Troubles, because I really didn't like the way that whole event played out in the Realms.&nbsp; The concept of gods walking the Earth was cool, but the execution of it in novels was IMO really terrible.&nbsp; So my Realms diverged and has kept on diverging.&nbsp; Elminster and the major NPCs became more and more Mary Sue-ish.&nbsp; I loved the thousands of &quot;little guy&quot; NPCs in the Realms, and the general region-specific lore that developed during 2E, but the increasing number of RSEs and power bloat of the major NPCs wasn't something I was interested in.Then 4E happened, and all the regional lore I really loved was wiped mostly clean.&nbsp; All the &quot;little guy&quot; NPCs were dead as a result of the 100-year gap, or murdered by the spellplague.&nbsp; Everything I liked about the Realms was no longer to be found in the 4E Realms.&nbsp; And yet, the powerhouse NPCs that I never used, like Elminster and Drizzt, the Simbul and Storm, they were still alive and kicking.With the new announcements that they'll just be moving forward in 5E, building on the husk of 4E rather than doing a reboot, I find that I'm really no longer interested in the Realms.&nbsp; Elminster will recover his power lost in 4E, have no doubt.&nbsp; They'll do another massive RSE (word is that they're going to split Abeir and Toril, and the overgod AO will reforge the Tablets of Fate that were so prominently part of the 2E Time of Troubles), and the Realms will &quot;morph&quot; according to AO's wishes.But that massive host of &quot;little guy&quot; regional NPCs that were lovingly developed during 1E-2E, they'll still be gone.&nbsp; And I honestly don't want to wait another 20+ years to build up another set of regional NPCs to give the Realms that wonderful and rich flavor it used to have.&nbsp; Sure, Elminster and Drizzt will always be there, but they were never what defined the Realms for me in my games.So although I have nostalgia and love for the Realms I grew up with as a young girl, I don't see anything really in 4E or their announced plans for 5E that grabs me at all.&nbsp; Time for me to find something new... I wish, honestly, that WotC had decided to revive Greyhawk for the launch of 5E rather than pump out yet another new version of the Realms.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Therise, post: 5995015, member: 6683949"] I don't mind Elminster, really. As a kid, I loved those old Elminster "Pages from the Mages" articles way, way back in Dragon magazine. And the 1E version of the Realms was one of the best gaming products I ever bought. But as Elminster has grown, he's become less and less interesting to me, not more. Same with the Realms, generally. I departed from canon with the Time of Troubles, because I really didn't like the way that whole event played out in the Realms. The concept of gods walking the Earth was cool, but the execution of it in novels was IMO really terrible. So my Realms diverged and has kept on diverging. Elminster and the major NPCs became more and more Mary Sue-ish. I loved the thousands of "little guy" NPCs in the Realms, and the general region-specific lore that developed during 2E, but the increasing number of RSEs and power bloat of the major NPCs wasn't something I was interested in. Then 4E happened, and all the regional lore I really loved was wiped mostly clean. All the "little guy" NPCs were dead as a result of the 100-year gap, or murdered by the spellplague. Everything I liked about the Realms was no longer to be found in the 4E Realms. And yet, the powerhouse NPCs that I never used, like Elminster and Drizzt, the Simbul and Storm, they were still alive and kicking. With the new announcements that they'll just be moving forward in 5E, building on the husk of 4E rather than doing a reboot, I find that I'm really no longer interested in the Realms. Elminster will recover his power lost in 4E, have no doubt. They'll do another massive RSE (word is that they're going to split Abeir and Toril, and the overgod AO will reforge the Tablets of Fate that were so prominently part of the 2E Time of Troubles), and the Realms will "morph" according to AO's wishes. But that massive host of "little guy" regional NPCs that were lovingly developed during 1E-2E, they'll still be gone. And I honestly don't want to wait another 20+ years to build up another set of regional NPCs to give the Realms that wonderful and rich flavor it used to have. Sure, Elminster and Drizzt will always be there, but they were never what defined the Realms for me in my games. So although I have nostalgia and love for the Realms I grew up with as a young girl, I don't see anything really in 4E or their announced plans for 5E that grabs me at all. Time for me to find something new... I wish, honestly, that WotC had decided to revive Greyhawk for the launch of 5E rather than pump out yet another new version of the Realms. [/QUOTE]

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