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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ARandomGod" data-source="post: 2786515" data-attributes="member: 17296">Quoted for Truth.Intent... Well, I'm not really convinced about intent either way, to be honest. I mean, I'm convinced that Improved Trip wasn't written to encompass this situation, but then it didn't exist when the feat was written.  The other feat, however.... well, since the feat specifically meantioned tripping, they would have had to be utter morons NOT to have read the improved trip feat. It's not like there are a lot of other 'trip' feats out there, and Improved Trip is core. They almost certainly saw this combination. Whether they pointed it out or even will admit to it, that's debateable.Balance... I've never seen it, and so I won't comment on it's balance. I have seen Trip builds, mind you. And they're good from around levels 5-12. But for all the hyper-reaction I've seen some people do they haven't been really over the top. I'd want to see this in play before I'd make a balance call. I do agree that it's something that might push a well built tripper PC over the top, but I can't say that it will. After all, I originally thought that the MT was gonna be pretty powerful! (Once again with that, though, I refrained from nixing it until I'd seen it in play).Here's a good for instance of differing interpretation of intent and balance:The feat improved trip already, alone, allows you to get "two attacks", or you could interpret the Improved Trip feat as saying you have a potential of also doing damage on your trip, but you have to make two rolls on this one attack... And Aloïsius says that he doesn't like an AoO against an AoO, but the Elusive Target feat grants just that, an AoO against an AoO.  So he would say no because he doesn't like the Elusive Target feat at all, and being able to do a better than normal attack (through a feat), is therefore also bad... of course, that's very similiar to the sentiment of saying he wouldn't allow weapon focus on this AoO from an AoO... and really just saying he doesn't like the feat in the first place.</blockquote>

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