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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2786564" data-attributes="member: 2011">You asked a question and then gave your own version of the answer. I was stating that your answer was poor logic, not the question.Your answer boiled down:If it is an eratta, it doesn't matter.If it is a clarification, it doesn't matter.You basically said that no matter what WotC stated and where they stated it, a ruling on Improved Trip for Knockdown does not matter because it is not the same rule.I am not claiming it is the same rule. I am claiming that this rule supports the rule as written within Improved Trip (i.e. the &quot;as if&quot; clause that you are totally ignoring).It was the Sword and Fist eratta.&quot;KnockdownInsert to end of Benefit:Use of this feat cannot be combined with Improved Trip to generate an extra attack.&quot;The only thing that Knockdown illustrates is that the &quot;as if&quot; clause is interpreted this way for Knockdown. If it is interpreted that way for Knockdown, it should be interpreted the exact same way for every other combinations of feats, actions, and abilities.Ignoring the &quot;as if&quot; clause is changing the rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2786564, member: 2011"] You asked a question and then gave your own version of the answer. I was stating that your answer was poor logic, not the question. Your answer boiled down: If it is an eratta, it doesn't matter. If it is a clarification, it doesn't matter. You basically said that no matter what WotC stated and where they stated it, a ruling on Improved Trip for Knockdown does not matter because it is not the same rule. I am not claiming it is the same rule. I am claiming that this rule supports the rule as written within Improved Trip (i.e. the "as if" clause that you are totally ignoring). It was the Sword and Fist eratta. "Knockdown Insert to end of Benefit: Use of this feat cannot be combined with Improved Trip to generate an extra attack." The only thing that Knockdown illustrates is that the "as if" clause is interpreted this way for Knockdown. If it is interpreted that way for Knockdown, it should be interpreted the exact same way for every other combinations of feats, actions, and abilities. Ignoring the "as if" clause is changing the rules. [/QUOTE]

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