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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2786587" data-attributes="member: 2011">It's not as if you are not gaining anything with those two feats as is.Giving them extra power, especially when you are discussing Trip, is questionable with regard to balance.3.5 Trip is already a fairly devastating action without giving it even more power.A tripped character has no mobility and he is either effectively at -4 to hit and AC, or he has to give up his ability to do a full round attack and he gets AoOed standing up. This is real potent to begin with.Throw Combat Reflexes into this mix and a character waltzing through a group of enemies can not only trip most or all of them, but he can get an attack on each one of them while they are down if you rule this way.That's REAL potent in combat. Moving, plus the equivalent of multi-opponent Trip, plus the equivalent of a multi-opponent attack. Sure, you might not trip them all and one or two of them might hit you in return, but this is huge.</blockquote>